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1/3 of the US gasoline pipeline was held hostage or had a massive leak in 2021, shuts down for hurricanes, and had an explosion in 2016. But every individual h

1/3 of the US gasoline pipeline was held hostage or had a massive leak in 2021, shuts down for hurricanes, and had an explosion in 2016. But every individual household can't high speed charge on their residential service 250 miles every day while their air conditioning is running. (/s) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_Pipeline_ransomware_attack https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_Pipeline_ransomware... https://newrepublic.com/article/161498/huntersville-north-carolina-colonial-pipeline-spill https://newrepublic.com/article/161498/huntersville-north-ca... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Colonial_Pipeline_leak https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Colonial_Pipeline_leak

bjustin 3y ago
Why would everyone high speed charge? You can get 250 miles in Model 3 at 12 hours of 6.6kW (~22 mi/hour). Even only eight hours would get 170 miles. Eight hours of charging per night is doable for most people, I imagine.
- smileysteve 3y ago
  This is what I am pointing out about the article, industry, and fear mongering on this subject. the p50 for daily commute distance in America is ~41 miles; if cars only had a 200 mile range. they'd still last ~4+ days; and that's not accounting for the possibility of "topping" off at commercial electric properties (places or employment/entertainment, transportation hub, gas stations installing chargers)
ip26 3y ago
Air conditioning peak load is 2-7pm, 5.5kW. EV peak load is like 7pm-1am, 6-12kW (and can be dialed back). Frankly they are complimentary. If you have the service to run AC, you already have the service for an EV.
- smileysteve 3y ago
  Exactly. And modern thermostats and modern electric cars can work around each other, around grid usage dynamics while also extending the average driver's battery life because 8 hours of sleep doesn't require full speed charging.
sokoloff 3y ago
> everybody can't high speed charge on their residential service 250 miles every day Fortunately, most people drive substantially less than 91K miles per year, so everyone charging 250 miles every day is not anywhere close to the actual requirement.
- smileysteve 3y ago
  Added the /s for clarity; The gasoline delivery pipeline is a risk to national security and the health of citizens; it has experienced a number of issues over the last 10 years. 95% of fear-mongers are concerned about the 5% use case, while ignoring that humans sleep, eat, or need to stretch legs in less miles.

bjustin 3y ago

Why would everyone high speed charge? You can get 250 miles in Model 3 at 12 hours of 6.6kW (~22 mi/hour). Even only eight hours would get 170 miles. Eight hours of charging per night is doable for most people, I imagine.

smileysteve 3y ago
This is what I am pointing out about the article, industry, and fear mongering on this subject. the p50 for daily commute distance in America is ~41 miles; if cars only had a 200 mile range. they'd still last ~4+ days; and that's not accounting for the possibility of "topping" off at commercial electric properties (places or employment/entertainment, transportation hub, gas stations installing chargers)

ip26 3y ago

Air conditioning peak load is 2-7pm, 5.5kW. EV peak load is like 7pm-1am, 6-12kW (and can be dialed back). Frankly they are complimentary. If you have the service to run AC, you already have the service for an EV.

smileysteve 3y ago
Exactly. And modern thermostats and modern electric cars can work around each other, around grid usage dynamics while also extending the average driver's battery life because 8 hours of sleep doesn't require full speed charging.

sokoloff 3y ago

> everybody can't high speed charge on their residential service 250 miles every day Fortunately, most people drive substantially less than 91K miles per year, so everyone charging 250 miles every day is not anywhere close to the actual requirement.

smileysteve 3y ago
Added the /s for clarity; The gasoline delivery pipeline is a risk to national security and the health of citizens; it has experienced a number of issues over the last 10 years. 95% of fear-mongers are concerned about the 5% use case, while ignoring that humans sleep, eat, or need to stretch legs in less miles.