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I've spent some time last week reading about this ... pretty scary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermohaline_circulation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermo

• itissid 3y ago
  That peter ward stuff is really scary: - Slowing of ocean cycles leads to a miasma of hot H2S and then swampy jungle like place. - Slowing Reproductive cycles is nearer than wet bulb temperature related issues.
• sebmellen 3y ago
  Wow, that Peter Ward podcast is the least sensationalist, yet most terrifying piece I've heard on the future of climate. Damn.
  • bertil 3y ago
    I was not ready for the sperm twist on the wet bulb temperature…
    • actionfromafar 3y ago
      Hm, maybe there is something to the Gaia theory, after all.
    • sebmellen 3y ago
      Me either. Completely blew my mind, but it makes sense. One of the theories I’ve seen for our modern fertility crisis is that obesity and other sources of heat are driving up sperm temperature, which leads to many fewer viable sperm than usual.
      • namaria 3y ago
        If human fertility is dropping fast, seems like all human caused habitat damage is a self correcting problem then...
      • lm28469 3y ago
        > obesity and other sources of heat are driving up sperm temperature That and endocrine disruptors https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/03/210319125459.htm#:~:text=The%20results%20of%20this%20study,per%20ejaculation%20(40%20million) https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/03/210319125459.h...
• itissid 3y ago
  And WTF is wrong with Chinese Govt policy when they want to just have these ivory doo-dads so much that if their populace don't have access to ivory they eviscerate Clam population in the south china sea.
  • dumpsterlid 3y ago
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  • sebmellen 3y ago
    Truly, driving giant clams to near extinction for ivory because elephant poaching is harder now is insane. Same with the Pangolin scales for used for "libido enhancement" (which don't even work)! What is wrong with China?
    • xorbax 3y ago
      China has "traditional" medicine, the US has the prosperity gospel Maybe the human race is fine on average, but the stupid outliers are an order of magnitude more destructive than the average person in unpredictable and ignorable ways.
      • enraged_camel 3y ago
        >> China has "traditional" medicine, the US has the prosperity gospel Better analogy would be chiropractic and homeopathy. Both are total junk and are held up by nothing other than anecdotal evidence (and massive amounts of PR and lobbying).
        • Jare 3y ago
          So is religion tbh yet here we are.
          • actionfromafar 3y ago
            Religion is on a wider scale, more like society at large.
• zackees 3y ago
  It's not scary. Earth is a lush place with warmer temperatures. The deserts turn green and there's more rainfall everywhere. Earth has never suffered a mass extinction from a warming climate. The only climate which does cause a mass extinction is an ice age. If you are a climate scientist that goes against the narrative you get your funding cut. The result is a dearth of doom and gloom, because that's where the money is at. Dissident climatologists like Judith Curry get the boot. Additionally, and what the main stream science won't tell you is that "global warming" is happening on other planets as well, where there are no humans and thus no industrial activity that could account for this. A Gloomy Mars Warms Up https://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/research/2007/marswarming.html https://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/research/2007/marswarming.... The media and captured scientific institutions are trying to cover this up by saying that the planet is darkening. The solution to climate change will only be taxes and more regulation. Solutions like Nuclear, which produces abundant carbon free energy has been sabotaged by regulation so that had no choice but to have a carbon based economy. Also, it's very effective blackmail against a country that decides to not pay the IMF for it's predatory loans, where the oil imports can be shut off via mandate, and the economic system of said country grinds to a halt. The entire global warming system has been caused by... the sun. The sun is getting a little bit hotter right now but the string pullers that own the global financial system are using their influence to say it's the trace gas CO2, despite the fact that H20 has even more heat trapping capabilities than CO2 does and is far far more abundant.
  • pvaldes 3y ago
    > Earth has never suffered a mass extinction from a warming climate. The only climate which does cause a mass extinction is an ice age. Europe lost a lot of its megafauna just after the ice age, when temperatures raised. Is not if is warm or cold, is the sudden change in the environment. And now is even faster
    • namaria 3y ago
      Eh... complex systems evolve through boom-and-bust dynamics. Humans are causing a bust. It might delete us from Earth. We had a brief, good run.