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“Researchers say certain strains of gut bacteria are the likely cause of Parkinson's disease” This means we need to screen people then give people an antibioti
by melling 3y ago
“Researchers say certain strains of gut bacteria are the likely cause of Parkinson's disease”
This means we need to screen people then give people an antibiotic?
This is a costly disease.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7240660/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7240660/
“Parkinson's disease (PD) is the second most common degenerative disease of the nervous system after Alzheimer's disease”
- cduzz 3y agoHopefully this turns out the same way ulcers were identified as being caused by h. pylori and not "stress".[1] [1] https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/the-doctor-who-drank-infectious-broth-gave-himself-an-ulcer-and-solved-a-medical-mystery https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/the-doctor-who-drank...
- throwaway290 3y agoTo provide comfy environment for h pylori development it helps to have GERD which guess what happens due to stress. So h pylori does cause ulcers, but they proliferate if you stress and in a way it's potato, potato. Choose between stress lots and take h pylori meds or, you know, not stress and be unlikely to get ulcers (and lots of other bad stuff!) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7210023/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7210023/
- doctor_eval 3y agoGERD - Gastroesophageal reflux disease https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastroesophageal_reflux_disease https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastroesophageal_reflux_diseas...
- gumby 3y agoJust because A increases the possibility of B does not mean B implies that A happened. I had h pylori but no GERD (and my partner has the latter but not the former). I was completely asymptomatic. That paper you linked to just included h pylori as a passing example of potential endogenous factors and did not make a more substantive claim. Note: I did not check any of the footnotes that mentioned H pylori, which might have done.
- throwaway290 3y agoIf you were asymptomatic, does it count as ulcers? Did you had broken stomach lining and stuff? If not, isn't it exactly what I said: h pylori does not automatically cause ulcers, unless you provide with a comfy environment to thrive by stressing/refluxing
- mharig 3y agoIt's more complicated: https://nihrecord.nih.gov/2022/04/15/scientists-reveal-good-bad-and-ugly-h-pylori https://nihrecord.nih.gov/2022/04/15/scientists-reveal-good-... And I guess the story around Parkinson's (and Alzheimer's) will come out more complicated, too.
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- gessha 3y agoAre there any drawbacks (other than cost) to doing population wide screenings for different diseases in order to collect data and address those deseases? The economic benefit of healthier population might actually outweigh those screening costs and accelerate medicine. I feel like the way we’re approaching medicine testing and approval is inefficient and too complex. Many patients are resorting to social media to look for diagnosis after going to many doctors and failing to get one.
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- throwaway173738 3y agoProbably you’d have a hard time getting an IRB to commit to the data collection given the kinds of real or imagined harm. We used to do this in public school. The last vestige was the scoliosis/kyphosis testing we underwent yearly in gym classes.
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- fnordpiglet 3y agoSeems absurdly unlikely assuming someone with Parkinson’s has taken antibiotics before. You would think this would have been noticed if so.