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Do you have a source for these claims? > Toyota's or GM's advanced driving systems What advanced driving system? Do you mean lane assist with adaptive cruise

Do you have a source for these claims? > Toyota's or GM's advanced driving systems What advanced driving system? Do you mean lane assist with adaptive cruise control? That’s not even remotely comparable.

gamblor956 3y ago
It doesn't matter what advanced driving systems you compare; Tesla is the world's worst in terms of accidents, injuries, and fatalities. For sources: NYT and WaPo both have a series of articles covering this; the NHTSA has released a report documenting over 100 Tesla advanced driving accidents.
- fallingknife 3y ago
  It's not 100. It's 100/X and if you don't know what X is then your number is worse than useless.
  - gamblor956 3y ago
    It's 19 fatalities in the U.S. and over 273 accidents as of June 2022. The numbers have gone up since then. (https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/15/data-shows-tesla-accounts-for-most-reported-driver-assist-crashes-but-officials-warn-report-lacks-context.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/15/data-shows-tesla-accounts-fo...). For comparison, the entire rest of the world's automotive industry has 1 fatality and fewer than 100 accidents, despite having advanced driving systems on more than 3 million vehicles. But nice try, I'm sure Elon would love to hire you hire Tesla's damage control department.
- surfpel 3y ago
  > It doesn't matter what advanced driving systems you compare It doesn’t matter? Sorry, but this is absurd. There are no other advanced driving systems on any production vehicles that is comparable to what Tesla is doing. This kind of unbacked, vague, hand-wavey, arm-chair cynicism holds society back from making real progress. No thanks.
  - gamblor956 3y ago
    True, Tesla's ADAS systems are unique in crashing into things like big rigs, police cars, parked cars, children, and other things that every other system is able to avoid. Silly pro-Tesla FUD is setting back actual progress in ADAS systems by years.
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gamblor956 3y ago

It doesn't matter what advanced driving systems you compare; Tesla is the world's worst in terms of accidents, injuries, and fatalities. For sources: NYT and WaPo both have a series of articles covering this; the NHTSA has released a report documenting over 100 Tesla advanced driving accidents.

fallingknife 3y ago
It's not 100. It's 100/X and if you don't know what X is then your number is worse than useless.
- gamblor956 3y ago
  It's 19 fatalities in the U.S. and over 273 accidents as of June 2022. The numbers have gone up since then. (https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/15/data-shows-tesla-accounts-for-most-reported-driver-assist-crashes-but-officials-warn-report-lacks-context.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/15/data-shows-tesla-accounts-fo...). For comparison, the entire rest of the world's automotive industry has 1 fatality and fewer than 100 accidents, despite having advanced driving systems on more than 3 million vehicles. But nice try, I'm sure Elon would love to hire you hire Tesla's damage control department.
surfpel 3y ago
> It doesn't matter what advanced driving systems you compare It doesn’t matter? Sorry, but this is absurd. There are no other advanced driving systems on any production vehicles that is comparable to what Tesla is doing. This kind of unbacked, vague, hand-wavey, arm-chair cynicism holds society back from making real progress. No thanks.
- gamblor956 3y ago
  True, Tesla's ADAS systems are unique in crashing into things like big rigs, police cars, parked cars, children, and other things that every other system is able to avoid. Silly pro-Tesla FUD is setting back actual progress in ADAS systems by years.
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