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We still have Türk Dil Kurumu (Institute of Turkish Language) in Turkey. In their website, their motto is declared as "Our Language is our Identity" (Dilimiz Ki

We still have Türk Dil Kurumu (Institute of Turkish Language) in Turkey. In their website, their motto is declared as "Our Language is our Identity" (Dilimiz Kimliğimizdir). They proposed so many silly words, at one point people were coming up with fake translations attributed to them and others were believing in those, turning them to urban legends. One such legend is my favorite: Turkish word: Tren (Train) Supposedly proposed translation: Alttan ittirmeli üstten tüttürmeli çok oturgaçlı getirgeçli götürgeç Which can be translated to English somewhat literally as "Bottom pushed, top smoking, multi-person-saddle, bringer and deliverer of people" (My best attempt, perhaps GPTs can do better). However, the thing about them coming up with fake Turkish roots to foreign words (especially French) is totally true. One such example is "okul" (school) which comes from "l'école" but they long time argued that it came from the Turkish root "oku" which also means to study (among "read" and "send prayers"). There are thousands of "inventions" like these. The weird trend was (still is!) our tendency as a nation to invent Turkish language roots in words from other languages, which once lead to ridiculous stuff like the Sun Language Theory [0]. IM(not so)HO: All language institutes should be left in the past, as they tend to ignore the organic properties of the languages they are supposed to protect. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Language_Theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Language_Theory

lm28469 3y ago
> My best attempt, perhaps GPTs can do better I doubt it's been trained on that, here is what it told me: > I'm sorry, but the phrase "Alttan ittirmeli üstten tüttürmeli çok oturgaçlı getirgeçli götürgeç" appears to be a nonsensical combination of Turkish words. It doesn't have a clear meaning or context.
- egeozcan 3y ago
  I had more luck! :) > try a literal translation for "Alttan ittirmeli üstten tüttürmeli çok oturgaçlı getirgeçli götürgeç" >> ChatGPT: Sure, here's a literal translation of the original Turkish sentence: "Bring-take with a lot of lower-upper pushing-pulling, with many buttocked and seated ones." >> As you can see, the literal translation doesn't make much sense in English, and it loses the humor and rhythm of the original tongue twister. > try a better translation >> Certainly, here's a better translation of the original Turkish sentence that preserves the humor and rhythm: >> "Jostle and wiggle with seats too small or too big, to make it through this ride like a true champion of the middle." >> This translation captures the playful tone and the challenge of the original tongue twister, while using language that is more natural and understandable in English. Oh well :)

lm28469 3y ago

> My best attempt, perhaps GPTs can do better I doubt it's been trained on that, here is what it told me: > I'm sorry, but the phrase "Alttan ittirmeli üstten tüttürmeli çok oturgaçlı getirgeçli götürgeç" appears to be a nonsensical combination of Turkish words. It doesn't have a clear meaning or context.

egeozcan 3y ago
I had more luck! :) > try a literal translation for "Alttan ittirmeli üstten tüttürmeli çok oturgaçlı getirgeçli götürgeç" >> ChatGPT: Sure, here's a literal translation of the original Turkish sentence: "Bring-take with a lot of lower-upper pushing-pulling, with many buttocked and seated ones." >> As you can see, the literal translation doesn't make much sense in English, and it loses the humor and rhythm of the original tongue twister. > try a better translation >> Certainly, here's a better translation of the original Turkish sentence that preserves the humor and rhythm: >> "Jostle and wiggle with seats too small or too big, to make it through this ride like a true champion of the middle." >> This translation captures the playful tone and the challenge of the original tongue twister, while using language that is more natural and understandable in English. Oh well :)