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I can't reliably offer a comment on the optics of this device. But I can say there is some level of amateur-ish marketing going on, and that doesn't bode well

by geuis 3y ago

I can't reliably offer a comment on the optics of this device. But I can say there is some level of amateur-ish marketing going on, and that doesn't bode well for the actual product. Don't advertise the weight of the product in pounds but use European math notation for all of the other specs. In the west, we use decimal notation for numerical values not commas. Among the core customer market (astro photography minded people), we understand the metric system. In fact, it's easier to reason about optical devices in metric than imperial. Yes, I'm an American native who understands the metric system. Edit: Plus the naming of this thing. I know short domain names are in short supply these days. But come on. "Vaonis Hyperia"? Just name it "TwiddlyDoo Big Dick Telescope". At least the random search mis-types will help with marketing and search engine results.

KingOfCoders 3y ago
"In the west, we use decimal notation for numerical values not commas." Not sure what you mean with this, Germany uses commas for numerical values and I thought we are part of "the West". We might use dots for thousands. But I might also argue in "the West" we use the uppercase "W" - so I might not get the nuances.
zimpenfish 3y ago
> In the west, we use decimal notation for numerical values not commas. They're in France. Which is in "the west"? Also where they use commas for the decimal separator. > Yes, I'm an American native who understands the metric system. But apparently not the concept of localisation?
- poulpy123 3y ago
  As a french I would like to see them succeed, but at this price point your communication should be perfect. While the comma is perfectly valid in english, is an international standard and widely used in other languages, the fact is that in english the dot is the standard.
- oaiey 3y ago
  What he is arguing that you should not localize to the US because of the product. That has a point
  - geuis 3y ago
    And if you are localizing to a country, be sure to do it in the local vernacular.
    - KingOfCoders 3y ago
      Why do you think the page is localized to the US? Because the page is in English? I'm German and >90% of the stuff I read on the internet is in English. The languages are FR and EN on that page. So it's for the French speaking world and EN seems to be for everyone who knows English but doesn't speak French (like myself). "Contact us" on the page says "Contact our customer service on +1 (646) 956-5933 (US) +33 4 84 98 00 21 (EU)" So it looks IF the pages is localized it is for the US and EU. And because a minority of people in the EU speak French, it looks like the EN version of the page is for them too. Is it really for people in the US, "If it's English, it's only for me"? Is the reason for this that people in the US can't imagine people speaking more than one language? What could be the reason for that attitude?
- geuis 3y ago
  And apparently you completely missed that my entire comment is about poor localization. My comment stands. Clearly the measurements being presented are meant to reach an American/Canadian/English/UK market. But it's an extremely awkward mix. I apologize for summarizing "in the west" as purely North American. That's obviously not true and my fault for lack of specific country knowledge. Of course France is a core center of Western culture. Sorry French friends, I am a dumb American trying to do better.
  - KingOfCoders 3y ago
    "I apologize for summarizing "in the west" as purely North American." Don't apologize, on HN only the US exists, it's the most geocentric place I frequent.
- causality0 3y ago
  If you're going to publish a page in English publish all of the page in English. A page that's 98 percent in English is just a page in English with a bunch of mistakes.
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by geuis 3y ago

KingOfCoders 3y ago

"In the west, we use decimal notation for numerical values not commas." Not sure what you mean with this, Germany uses commas for numerical values and I thought we are part of "the West". We might use dots for thousands. But I might also argue in "the West" we use the uppercase "W" - so I might not get the nuances.

zimpenfish 3y ago

> In the west, we use decimal notation for numerical values not commas. They're in France. Which is in "the west"? Also where they use commas for the decimal separator. > Yes, I'm an American native who understands the metric system. But apparently not the concept of localisation?

poulpy123 3y ago
As a french I would like to see them succeed, but at this price point your communication should be perfect. While the comma is perfectly valid in english, is an international standard and widely used in other languages, the fact is that in english the dot is the standard.
oaiey 3y ago
What he is arguing that you should not localize to the US because of the product. That has a point
- geuis 3y ago
  And if you are localizing to a country, be sure to do it in the local vernacular.
  - KingOfCoders 3y ago
    Why do you think the page is localized to the US? Because the page is in English? I'm German and >90% of the stuff I read on the internet is in English. The languages are FR and EN on that page. So it's for the French speaking world and EN seems to be for everyone who knows English but doesn't speak French (like myself). "Contact us" on the page says "Contact our customer service on +1 (646) 956-5933 (US) +33 4 84 98 00 21 (EU)" So it looks IF the pages is localized it is for the US and EU. And because a minority of people in the EU speak French, it looks like the EN version of the page is for them too. Is it really for people in the US, "If it's English, it's only for me"? Is the reason for this that people in the US can't imagine people speaking more than one language? What could be the reason for that attitude?
geuis 3y ago
And apparently you completely missed that my entire comment is about poor localization. My comment stands. Clearly the measurements being presented are meant to reach an American/Canadian/English/UK market. But it's an extremely awkward mix. I apologize for summarizing "in the west" as purely North American. That's obviously not true and my fault for lack of specific country knowledge. Of course France is a core center of Western culture. Sorry French friends, I am a dumb American trying to do better.
- KingOfCoders 3y ago
  "I apologize for summarizing "in the west" as purely North American." Don't apologize, on HN only the US exists, it's the most geocentric place I frequent.
causality0 3y ago
If you're going to publish a page in English publish all of the page in English. A page that's 98 percent in English is just a page in English with a bunch of mistakes.

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