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Or MASSIVE numbers of people that simply aren't working and are reconfiguring their lives to require a lot less money? The constant downpressure on paying labo

Or MASSIVE numbers of people that simply aren't working and are reconfiguring their lives to require a lot less money? The constant downpressure on paying labor is now at the "quiet revolt" level. The good news: if companies hate WFH, then why would they like outsourcing? It's basically the same problem, except with 3000 miles and 12 hour timeshifts and a language barrier.

deepsun 4y ago
> why would they like outsourcing? ... 3-5x less expensive.
- carlmr 4y ago
  Oh it was very expensive in the last job I worked. You needed to redo everything we got back from the cheap labor there. I automated most jobs that I was told to send there. Since due to the quality issues only the busy jobs were sent there that are faster to automate and higher quality, too. After a few months my boss came to me and told me I need to use the outsourced staff more, since they have nothing to do.
  - deepsun 4y ago
    Outsourcing != bad hire. Sounds like you just did bad hires, whether that's outsourced or not is diagonal. I'm a business owner, and we do extensive outsourcing, with a very good outcome. The trick? We outsource from our home region (where I emigrated from), so we know the market better and how to hire well.
000ooo000 4y ago
>if companies hate WFH, then why would they like outsourcing? It's basically the same problem, except with 3000 miles and 12 hour timeshifts and a language barrier. Haha - I can't believe I've not seen this mentioned anywhere before. This is hilarious.
daveKoala 4y ago
This I agree on. I'd also add based on my experience, consultancies add to the issue. After 20+ years of meddling and pushing the latest idea we are still not productive
AHOHA 4y ago
>The good news: if companies hate WFH, then why would they like outsourcing? It's basically the same problem, except with 3000 miles and 12 hour timeshifts and a language barrier. I had similar argument with my previous employer, it was simply about “culture” and “team work dynamics” and other BS, ironically, when most of management team was allowed wfh but denied for software/engineering team
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deepsun 4y ago

> why would they like outsourcing? ... 3-5x less expensive.

carlmr 4y ago
Oh it was very expensive in the last job I worked. You needed to redo everything we got back from the cheap labor there. I automated most jobs that I was told to send there. Since due to the quality issues only the busy jobs were sent there that are faster to automate and higher quality, too. After a few months my boss came to me and told me I need to use the outsourced staff more, since they have nothing to do.
- deepsun 4y ago
  Outsourcing != bad hire. Sounds like you just did bad hires, whether that's outsourced or not is diagonal. I'm a business owner, and we do extensive outsourcing, with a very good outcome. The trick? We outsource from our home region (where I emigrated from), so we know the market better and how to hire well.

000ooo000 4y ago

>if companies hate WFH, then why would they like outsourcing? It's basically the same problem, except with 3000 miles and 12 hour timeshifts and a language barrier. Haha - I can't believe I've not seen this mentioned anywhere before. This is hilarious.

daveKoala 4y ago

This I agree on. I'd also add based on my experience, consultancies add to the issue. After 20+ years of meddling and pushing the latest idea we are still not productive

AHOHA 4y ago

>The good news: if companies hate WFH, then why would they like outsourcing? It's basically the same problem, except with 3000 miles and 12 hour timeshifts and a language barrier. I had similar argument with my previous employer, it was simply about “culture” and “team work dynamics” and other BS, ironically, when most of management team was allowed wfh but denied for software/engineering team

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