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Last based on what metrics? I've never seen anything better than the Tesla FSD except for the LIDAR robo taxis, but they are solving a very different problem w
by fallingknife 3y ago
Last based on what metrics? I've never seen anything better than the Tesla FSD except for the LIDAR robo taxis, but they are solving a very different problem with different constraints. Most recent cost estimate I can find shows a cost per vehicle of $130-150K for Waymo vs the Tesla system that needs to go in a vehicle costing $40-50K which makes using a Waymo style sensor suite impossible. Would be interesting to see how the Tesla software would perform with the sensor input of something like the superior Waymo suite, but we won't ever find out unless costs come down by a massive amount.
- xnx 3y agoSensors are following a really great learning curve, rapidly getting both more capable, more reliable, and cheaper. It's reasonable to expect they could be a few hundred dollars per unit soon.
- AlotOfReading 3y agoYour numbers are very outdated. Exact figures and targets aren't usually announced, but both Waymo has talked about their upcoming vehicle being designed around a cost/mile ratio lower than consumer vehicles. That's not possible without very reasonable production costs. Cruise has also announced a target production price for their vehicle of $50k at scale, which is around the price of a new Tesla. That's not apples to apples, but it's close enough.
- surfpel 3y agoTesla announced a 25k car. All of the numbers so far from every company are just speculation, though. We’ll see how things actually pan out.