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> The BGS handles "big-world" networking. It crawls the network, gathering as much data as it can, and outputs it in one big stream for other services to use. I

> The BGS handles "big-world" networking. It crawls the network, gathering as much data as it can, and outputs it in one big stream for other services to use. It’s analogous to a firehose provider or a super-powered relay node. I think we should abandon whole idea of feed. Instead give me people/account/tag specific feed like Instagram or WhatsApp stories. With this I choose what I want to see. It would drastically reduce noise and my time on platform. The platform should be delight to use not something that is constantly trying to suck me into drama. This would also eliminate need of Big Graph Services.

timeon 3y ago
Feed is usually for accommodating promoted content.
12907835202 3y ago
Google plus circles?
tedunangst 3y ago
That's how it works without the BGS. You don't have to use it. Follow whoever you want, see their posts. Done.
- verdverm 3y ago
  Can you also prevent the BGS from scraping your server? What if I don't want to pay the networking bill they would cause? How is the BGS going to pay for sending out the firehose to all the listeners? It's still unclear to me how the federated economics will work out
  - capableweb 3y ago
    Sure, why not? Block things based on the user-agent, ala robots.txt
    - deadly_syn 3y ago
      Robots.txt isnt a blocklist; more of polite suggestions you have to hope are respected.
madeofpalk 3y ago
I think it is possible for a non-profit, non-commercial (and probably open source) social network platform to produce an 'algorithmic feed' that is some degree of 'good'. As you allude to, existing companies are incentivised to drive engagement by sucking you into some kind of drama to pump ad impressions. I believe that a platform which doesn't have such financial incentives could produce a different spin on an algorithmic feed which isn't as unhealthy. I also believe it should always be optional, and transparent. I probably wouldn't want to use it - I'm only interested in what the people i explicitly follow have to say.

timeon 3y ago

Feed is usually for accommodating promoted content.

12907835202 3y ago

Google plus circles?

tedunangst 3y ago

That's how it works without the BGS. You don't have to use it. Follow whoever you want, see their posts. Done.

verdverm 3y ago
Can you also prevent the BGS from scraping your server? What if I don't want to pay the networking bill they would cause? How is the BGS going to pay for sending out the firehose to all the listeners? It's still unclear to me how the federated economics will work out
- capableweb 3y ago
  Sure, why not? Block things based on the user-agent, ala robots.txt
  - deadly_syn 3y ago
    Robots.txt isnt a blocklist; more of polite suggestions you have to hope are respected.

madeofpalk 3y ago

I think it is possible for a non-profit, non-commercial (and probably open source) social network platform to produce an 'algorithmic feed' that is some degree of 'good'. As you allude to, existing companies are incentivised to drive engagement by sucking you into some kind of drama to pump ad impressions. I believe that a platform which doesn't have such financial incentives could produce a different spin on an algorithmic feed which isn't as unhealthy. I also believe it should always be optional, and transparent. I probably wouldn't want to use it - I'm only interested in what the people i explicitly follow have to say.