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For these exact reasons, I'm more comfortable with Xi Jinping's cronies spying on my every movement than my own government. The Chinese only do that stuff to t

For these exact reasons, I'm more comfortable with Xi Jinping's cronies spying on my every movement than my own government. The Chinese only do that stuff to their own citizens and I'm a zero-value target to them. US authorities may feel like being petty one day.

kelipso 4y ago
Seriously. What happened to that whole philosophy that the founding fathers had about being wary of our own government and the tendency of governments to overreach to control its citizenry. That entire sentiment seem to have disappeared especially in the last few years in favor of China-Russia-terrorism-whatever new bs hysteria.
- thfuran 4y ago
  The red scare wasn't in the last few years.
bluefirebrand 4y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detention_of_Michael_Spavor_and_Michael_Kovrig#:~:text=The%20detention%20of%20Michael%20Kovrig,by%20her%20father%20Ren%20Zhengfei https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detention_of_Michael_Spavor_.... China absolutely does not limit their abductions to their own citizens. If you're in China, you're fair game.
- BeFlatXIII 4y ago
  I have no plans to visit China, thankfully.
dghlsakjg 4y ago
You should do some more research about who China is willing to imprison for political purposes. It is absolutely not limited to Chinese citizens.
w7 4y ago
That's too simplistic of a line of thinking. They've: "fabricate evidence that the hosts of and participants in the meetings to commemorate the Tiananmen Square massacre were supporting terrorist organizations, inciting violence or distributing child pornography" [0] You mention only being concerned about US authorities, but have somehow failed to realize they can fabricate evidence and send it to US authorities in an attempt to reach you from across the pond. [0] https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/china-based-executive-us-telecommunications-company-charged-disrupting-video-meetings https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/china-based-executive-us-tele...
qwe2645692 4y ago
However, China has 1.4 billion people, they will do whatever to collect resources, including information and user stats which powers the recommendation system behind TikTok, which is ruining your next generation. Have I mentioned that China and Russia are deep allied and are probably sharing intelligence? I don't think the US government is worse than Russia's.

kelipso 4y ago

Seriously. What happened to that whole philosophy that the founding fathers had about being wary of our own government and the tendency of governments to overreach to control its citizenry. That entire sentiment seem to have disappeared especially in the last few years in favor of China-Russia-terrorism-whatever new bs hysteria.

thfuran 4y ago
The red scare wasn't in the last few years.

bluefirebrand 4y ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detention_of_Michael_Spavor_and_Michael_Kovrig#:~:text=The%20detention%20of%20Michael%20Kovrig,by%20her%20father%20Ren%20Zhengfei https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detention_of_Michael_Spavor_.... China absolutely does not limit their abductions to their own citizens. If you're in China, you're fair game.

BeFlatXIII 4y ago
I have no plans to visit China, thankfully.

dghlsakjg 4y ago

You should do some more research about who China is willing to imprison for political purposes. It is absolutely not limited to Chinese citizens.

w7 4y ago

That's too simplistic of a line of thinking. They've: "fabricate evidence that the hosts of and participants in the meetings to commemorate the Tiananmen Square massacre were supporting terrorist organizations, inciting violence or distributing child pornography" [0] You mention only being concerned about US authorities, but have somehow failed to realize they can fabricate evidence and send it to US authorities in an attempt to reach you from across the pond. [0] https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/china-based-executive-us-telecommunications-company-charged-disrupting-video-meetings https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/china-based-executive-us-tele...

qwe2645692 4y ago

However, China has 1.4 billion people, they will do whatever to collect resources, including information and user stats which powers the recommendation system behind TikTok, which is ruining your next generation. Have I mentioned that China and Russia are deep allied and are probably sharing intelligence? I don't think the US government is worse than Russia's.