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- The cars are very safe, very conservative drivers - The interiors are nice, well air conditioned and don't smell - You don't have to talk to a person, which
by austinkhale 3y ago
- The cars are very safe, very conservative drivers
- The interiors are nice, well air conditioned and don't smell
- You don't have to talk to a person, which I don't always hate but have had some bad experiences. This just removes the roll of the dice from the equation entirely.
- They are currently at par or cheaper with Uber/Lyft prices and typically it's faster for the car to arrive
- You get to play your own music
- josefx 3y ago> You don't have to talk to a person, which I don't always hate but have had some bad experiences. This just removes the roll of the dice from the equation entirely. Given that they are a Google/Alphabet company this seems like a missed opportunity for running ads on loop.
- xnx 3y agoThe attention of a captive audience will absolutely be monetized. This could happen any number of ways, but likely that there will be an option (like YouTube) to pay extra for an ad-free experience.
- trgn 3y ago> - The cars are very safe, very conservative drivers So great to hear. Seeing videos of self-driving Tesla made me fear for the worst.
- what_ever 3y agoTbh, you shouldn't compare Tesla "AutoPilot" with these full self driving options.
- cheonic20058 3y ago> Tbh, you shouldn't compare Tesla "AutoPilot" with these full self driving options. Right. Because Tesla FSD “beta” is not guaranteed, even if you pay for the monthly subscription. And even if you did have Tesla FSD beta, it’s a pile of shit. It’s gets worse every quarter as they continue to remove safety sensors from vehicles due to supply chain issues.
- speedgoose 3y agoWe haven’t watched the same FSD videos on YouTube lately but ok.
- speedgoose 3y agoThe Tesla full self driving private beta is more comparable, but not able to drive by itself for long time.
- itsoktocry 3y ago>The Tesla full self driving private beta is more comparable Have they removed the "you need to be fully aware and ready to grab the wheel" requirements of FSD? If not, how is this comparable? There is no driver.
- speedgoose 3y agoI mention that in the second part of the sentence you quote. It's comparable in some ways because the car drives itself most of the time. And apparently is not restricted to some well mapped areas.
- icey 3y agoHere's one concrete example -- these cars almost never take left hand turns. They'll route multiple right hand turns to get somewhere, which makes it feel much less risky when pulling onto a busy street from a neighborhood, for example.
- xnx 3y agoIt's understandable, but very unfortunate that people group Waymo, Cruise, and Tesla together. Waymo is at least 5-10 years more advanced.
- saberience 3y agoIt’s really really not, Waymo only works in a tiny section of the country which has almost perfect conditions for self driving. Let me know when it works in upstate New York during winter. Tesla is developing a general solution which works everywhere and can take left hand turns! ;)
- itsoktocry 3y ago>Tesla is developing a general solution which works everywhere and can take left hand turns! Ah yes, the classic comparison between a product you can literally go out and use, today, versus some hypothetical Tesla future state. No matter how good the technology is, Tesla promises something better and people act like it exists.
- xnx 3y agoWaymo is only publically active in a limited area. By all indications, they could operate to the same or better standard than Tesla in unmapped areas.
- RivieraKid 3y agoDepends on your definition of advanced. A coffee maker is more advanced than Waymo because it can do something Waymo can't. Waymo could easily modify their cars so that they can make coffee and can drive everywhere with a lower failure rate than Tesla, but they don't want to. On the other hand, Tesla can't do what Waymo does.
- threeseed 3y ago> You don't have to talk to a person My partner has been propositioned and harassed over a dozen times by Uber drivers. I think for many this is going to be a killer feature.
- kypro 3y agoYeah, as a guy I personally quite enjoy interacting with my driver (if I feel like it anyway). But basically every young female I know has been spoken to or treated inappropriately by taxi drivers here in the UK. I think Uber has solved this to some degree with their rating system, but it's still a big problem.
- drusepth 3y agoI think a lot of Lyft's early "we're like Uber, but better for women!" marketing hints that this is a killer feature that will absolutely drive growth. Especially now that Lyft, too, is saturated to the point of equally-risky drivers as Uber was/is.
- oh_sigh 3y agoI feel like once they start rolling out to more and more locales, we will be hit with a spate of news stories like "creepy guy wouldn't let my car drive away by standing in front of it and leering at me"
- xnx 3y agoAnother benefit to Waymo vehicles: Full video recording of all road interactions
- NewMountain 3y agoI had an Uber driver in upstate New York who was trying to get me to agree or at least not disagree with the superiority of the white "race". I had another driver in Oakland California who would not relent until I acknowledged God is real and I should be thankful for his love. I felt massive cognitive dissonance afterwards feeling both the requirement to report these drivers but also massive guilt at the non-zero chance I was depriving them of one if not the last potential for work available to them. I decided not to report either but still reflect on whether that was a good choice or not. Edit: to be totally clear: I did not agree in either situation, but tried to gracefully divert or redirect without escalating the situation. I didn't confront as, frankly, I wasn't sure if the person would have responded violently. Uber is valuable, but I have kind of accepted the premise that an Uber drive is just a public transit experience with a customized destination. I should expect some potentially weird and possibly unpleasant interactions as part of the process. I would 100% convert to Waymo only away from Uber just based on those two experiences and dozens if not hundreds of generally positive Uber experiences.
- JumpCrisscross 3y agoAdding: - they’re cheap. $5/ride. - they’re fun. It’s a self-driving car! That’s cool! I genuinely had fun every time I was taken around in one.
- arecurrence 3y agoDoes it prompt for a tip?
- kpw94 3y ago> The interiors are nice, well air conditioned and don't smell If they scale, that will become a problem: - people puking in car - people having sex in car - people eating greasy fries in car These happen in public transportation too (the sex one not as often, but puking, eating smelly/gross food definitely), but the big difference here is that users won't be anonymous. The next waymo rider (or waymo staff if the car stops by some inspection checkpoint between rides, or some extra in-car sensors) will be able to report the incident, which would flag repeating bad riders over time. Overall the experience would be as good as a Uber today, as like you said, no roll of the dice on the driver. Another new problem specific to self driving and not seen for public transportation: muggers driving a high speed bike targeting isolated rides (they'll know how easy it is to make the car stop, smash a window, and get the rider's valuables). Basically the modern version of stagecoach robberies. One could argue these already happens in Europe on highways with traffic jams, but I can see the muggers being more active at night, since in addition to knowing the rider can't try to escape, there's also less crowds around. It'll be very dependants on regions : In Phoenix, I'd assume less often as muggers won't know if the rider is carrying.
- maccard 3y ago> These happen in public transportation too (the sex one not as often, but puking, eating smelly/gross food definitely), Eh, I've used public transport regularly for 10+ years in two countries as a resident and in many, many cities as a visitor, and I can count on one hand the number of incidents I've had where someone has thrown up/left vomit on the bus or train I was on. The greasy/smelly food thing is slightly true, but let's be real, someone eating a McDonald's on a train for 10 minutes out of a 4 hour journey is partially because there's no other choice for food on that train on a long journey. On short distance transit (within the city/region) I genuinely can't remember the last time I had an issue with someone eating on the bus. > Another new problem specific to self driving and not seen for public transportation This is just FUD. If someone stepped out in front of me in a car in my city, I would stop. It's just as likely that two people step in front of me, one smashes my window and grabs my valuables and the other stops me from driving off, as it is that they pinpoint driverless cars.
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