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Which jobs are you thinking? Bus drivers? Taxis? Car production? Which loss of freedom are you referring to? I can’t help thinking that the potential upside wi

by aidos 3y ago

Which jobs are you thinking? Bus drivers? Taxis? Car production? Which loss of freedom are you referring to? I can’t help thinking that the potential upside will far out-way the cost. London streets are littered with dormant vehicles. Most just sit there taking up room and dominating the city. It would be a whole other city if we could change that dynamic.

genghisjahn 3y ago
Truck drivers mainly. There are LOTS of truck drivers. https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/02/05/382664837/map-the-most-common-job-in-every-state https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/02/05/382664837/map-...
- patriciaaa 3y ago
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- tyingq 3y ago
  If they get over-the-road trucking automated, that also trickles down to many roadside workers...gas stations, restaurants, motels, and so on. Then, some back office functions associated with routing, driver compliance, hiring drivers, etc. I'm sure there's more. It would be a big adjustment.
  - iinnPP 3y ago
    Not just financial either. When more people are perpetually online in an internet populated by an even larger population of bots designed for engagement, what happens? Many of the jobs you are referring to are socially fulfilling to some people. It's an escape from a poor home situation or from an addiction.
iinnPP 3y ago
I grew up in foster care. One of my guardians made a living driving a taxi. The guy was an absolute wreck of a human and I probably wouldn't break if he was crossing. It was what he used to survive though, and surely not all cab drivers would be the same. My brother in law drove Uber when he was illegally canned from his factory work and is the reason he got to eat. There are options to solve problems that don't require a change in the outcome you desire. Mainly something along the lines of forcing the companies profiting from this to pay a person a reasonable wage to act as the social aspect that will be missing. So the job market can be unaffected. It's not just a cab job problem either. It's also not about who I like or dislike or whether or not it impacts me or not. I have never used a cab in my life and I cannot drive and thus have no car taking up your street. I do however see a worsening homeless crisis in my small-ish Canadian city. I would rather see empty cars than tortured souls.
- UncleEntity 3y ago
  > Mainly something along the lines of forcing the companies profiting from this to pay a person a reasonable wage to act as the social aspect that will be missing. Force them to hire someone to sit in a car all day and do absolutely nothing?
  - iinnPP 3y ago
    act as the social aspect that will be missing. To act as a local for a traveler. To recommend locations To do nothing but sit there and look at their device or read Or perhaps the answer is a tax on automation and everyone can sit at home perpetually online. Im not claiming to have answers to this rapidly approaching problem. It's definitely a problem though. Even if it doesn't impact myself whatsoever at this time. What is your job? If it is gone tomorrow and your education is useless, what will you do? What about your family and friends?
    - UncleEntity 3y ago
      > What is your job? I drove cabs for nine years (right up until Covid). Some people want to talk, some people don’t want to talk, some people just won’t stop talking and you have to tune them out. What everyone had in common was the desire to get from point A to point B as cheaply as possible. They didn’t care about any social aspect, given the choice I suspect the majority of them would rather not have been paying for my livelihood if it meant the ride was cheaper. How many people do you think fell for the Lyft “fist bump” BS over taking a VC subsidized ride for a discount over a taxi?
    - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
      > act as the social aspect that will be missing Nobody I know wants this. I’ve had great Uber, Lyft and taxi drivers. But they’re far from the norm. I’d much prefer to be able to play my own music, or take back-to-back phone calls, or snore loudly. If this is genuinely the service, there is booming business in tour guiding.
- theLiminator 3y ago

by aidos 3y ago

genghisjahn 3y ago

Truck drivers mainly. There are LOTS of truck drivers. https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/02/05/382664837/map-the-most-common-job-in-every-state https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/02/05/382664837/map-...

patriciaaa 3y ago
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tyingq 3y ago
If they get over-the-road trucking automated, that also trickles down to many roadside workers...gas stations, restaurants, motels, and so on. Then, some back office functions associated with routing, driver compliance, hiring drivers, etc. I'm sure there's more. It would be a big adjustment.
- iinnPP 3y ago
  Not just financial either. When more people are perpetually online in an internet populated by an even larger population of bots designed for engagement, what happens? Many of the jobs you are referring to are socially fulfilling to some people. It's an escape from a poor home situation or from an addiction.

iinnPP 3y ago

I grew up in foster care. One of my guardians made a living driving a taxi. The guy was an absolute wreck of a human and I probably wouldn't break if he was crossing. It was what he used to survive though, and surely not all cab drivers would be the same. My brother in law drove Uber when he was illegally canned from his factory work and is the reason he got to eat. There are options to solve problems that don't require a change in the outcome you desire. Mainly something along the lines of forcing the companies profiting from this to pay a person a reasonable wage to act as the social aspect that will be missing. So the job market can be unaffected. It's not just a cab job problem either. It's also not about who I like or dislike or whether or not it impacts me or not. I have never used a cab in my life and I cannot drive and thus have no car taking up your street. I do however see a worsening homeless crisis in my small-ish Canadian city. I would rather see empty cars than tortured souls.

UncleEntity 3y ago
> Mainly something along the lines of forcing the companies profiting from this to pay a person a reasonable wage to act as the social aspect that will be missing. Force them to hire someone to sit in a car all day and do absolutely nothing?
- iinnPP 3y ago
  act as the social aspect that will be missing. To act as a local for a traveler. To recommend locations To do nothing but sit there and look at their device or read Or perhaps the answer is a tax on automation and everyone can sit at home perpetually online. Im not claiming to have answers to this rapidly approaching problem. It's definitely a problem though. Even if it doesn't impact myself whatsoever at this time. What is your job? If it is gone tomorrow and your education is useless, what will you do? What about your family and friends?
  - UncleEntity 3y ago
    > What is your job? I drove cabs for nine years (right up until Covid). Some people want to talk, some people don’t want to talk, some people just won’t stop talking and you have to tune them out. What everyone had in common was the desire to get from point A to point B as cheaply as possible. They didn’t care about any social aspect, given the choice I suspect the majority of them would rather not have been paying for my livelihood if it meant the ride was cheaper. How many people do you think fell for the Lyft “fist bump” BS over taking a VC subsidized ride for a discount over a taxi?
  - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
    > act as the social aspect that will be missing Nobody I know wants this. I’ve had great Uber, Lyft and taxi drivers. But they’re far from the norm. I’d much prefer to be able to play my own music, or take back-to-back phone calls, or snore loudly. If this is genuinely the service, there is booming business in tour guiding.
theLiminator 3y ago