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What does "touch grass" in this context mean? If you mean "every time I am smoking a joint and talking about Elon" I guess I'm not surprised. If you mean "ever

What does "touch grass" in this context mean? If you mean "every time I am smoking a joint and talking about Elon" I guess I'm not surprised. If you mean "every time I go outside and talk to people about Elon" I definitely am. There are large parts of my (quite liberal) state where a Tesla gets a pretty negative reaction.

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stainablesteel 3y ago
i'm basically saying every time i go out and am included in a discussion involving elon. for the past 2 years this has been my experience, i've been traveling throughout 3 different very liberal cities and i don't find people who are as disgusted with his as the media implies. i think that echo chamber is a small one meant to deceive people. if he was such a bad person, why is he doing so much good in the world?
- debatem1 3y ago
  I think the reaction varies a lot based on two things: 1. How much actual knowledge people have of Elon. Speaking from personal experience there is very much a "familiarity breeds contempt" thing going on here, and I suspect the same is true more generally. People exposed only to his early (positive) press will likely like him. People exposed only to his later (negative) press will likely hate him. 2. What part of Elon's portfolio they care most about. No matter how a space nerd feels about Elon they are going to have some positive vibes about SpaceX. Even people at competitors felt their hearts flutter when they saw the first double F9 landing, or first saw Starlink high in the night sky. But people who love cars... not so much. Plenty of folks who would sooner key a Tesla than own one, and will tell you so to your face. I also think that while lots of liberals are annoyed at Elon, the bulk of the hate comes from conservatives. Hard to erase a decade-long lead in pissing people off.
  - stainablesteel 3y ago
    my understanding is this is flipped in a few ways, the conservatives love him over twitter now. imo its the high achieving liberals that still ~like him while maybe disliking some things he said, and its the lower-rungs on the liberal ladder that are more susceptible to the negative news they see as its not really their problem who they dislike, its a social thing. and for the cars, teslas are selling quite well, its the only profitable ev according to recent business report apparently.

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stainablesteel 3y ago

i'm basically saying every time i go out and am included in a discussion involving elon. for the past 2 years this has been my experience, i've been traveling throughout 3 different very liberal cities and i don't find people who are as disgusted with his as the media implies. i think that echo chamber is a small one meant to deceive people. if he was such a bad person, why is he doing so much good in the world?

debatem1 3y ago
I think the reaction varies a lot based on two things: 1. How much actual knowledge people have of Elon. Speaking from personal experience there is very much a "familiarity breeds contempt" thing going on here, and I suspect the same is true more generally. People exposed only to his early (positive) press will likely like him. People exposed only to his later (negative) press will likely hate him. 2. What part of Elon's portfolio they care most about. No matter how a space nerd feels about Elon they are going to have some positive vibes about SpaceX. Even people at competitors felt their hearts flutter when they saw the first double F9 landing, or first saw Starlink high in the night sky. But people who love cars... not so much. Plenty of folks who would sooner key a Tesla than own one, and will tell you so to your face. I also think that while lots of liberals are annoyed at Elon, the bulk of the hate comes from conservatives. Hard to erase a decade-long lead in pissing people off.
- stainablesteel 3y ago
  my understanding is this is flipped in a few ways, the conservatives love him over twitter now. imo its the high achieving liberals that still ~like him while maybe disliking some things he said, and its the lower-rungs on the liberal ladder that are more susceptible to the negative news they see as its not really their problem who they dislike, its a social thing. and for the cars, teslas are selling quite well, its the only profitable ev according to recent business report apparently.