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It stands to reason that most entry and exit points are run by the NSA. All they have to do is match streams via rate limiting games to unmask.
by kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
It stands to reason that most entry and exit points are run by the NSA. All they have to do is match streams via rate limiting games to unmask.
- anigbrowl 4y agoDo you really think the NSA gives a shit about copyright? They're looking for nuclear secrets and the next 9-11.
- snvzz 4y agoThat's some BS in a post Snowden world context.
- anigbrowl 4y agoI don't think you seriously believe the NSA is trying to trawl for copyright violations. Arguments require more than just conflating some random facts and going 'there, see'.
- TrapLord_Rhodo 4y agoThey definitely are. Snowden literally proved this. They are collecting data at a MASSIVE SCALE. They are doing this as one of the commenters noted above; To find TS leaks and to find the next 9/11. But they are logging that information in some database somewhere. So it's not a question if they care/ will enforce it now, but rather will they care or enforce it for the rest of eternity. What people don't seem to understand about privacy is that once you give it away, it is gone forever. In some dystopian future where every American is assigned a social score, you pirating things in the early '00's may harm your ability to get a house loan.
- causi 4y agoWhy would the NSA care if I pirate The Lusty Elves of Cha'lifrax Volume 5?
- stainablesteel 4y agoits a long story, but I became an NSA agent to stop piracy of that book in particular
- znpy 4y agoThank god i only pirated volume 4 and 6 /s
- ryeights 4y agoThere are no exit relays when using hidden services
- kevin_thibedeau 4y agoIf they're running the hidden service or have a backdoor it's just as compromised.
- ryeights 4y agoYes… but that’s a much bigger ‘if’
- kevin_thibedeau 4y agoThe widespread adoption of TLS means that a far greater effort has been put into exploits needed to gain access to the unencrypted side of a communication channel. It's not as big an if as it was before Snowden.
- voldacar 4y agoThey can just do traffic correlation.
- ryeights 4y agoCorrelation attacks only work when you can see both ends of the traffic. When you visit an .onion address, there is no other “end”—all traffic stays within the Tor network and goes directly to the hidden service server, which is ‘just’ another relay within the network.
- voldacar 4y agoI would assume that the NSA runs enough TOR nodes to correlate traffic from one side of the network to the other side at least a decent percentage of the time. I would also assume that they have a realtime view of the number of bytes entering or leaving any datacenter.