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> wiki: Anecdotal Evidence Yes, but you haven't explained why this is a problem though. Let's say a black man gets beaten by the police. It's just "anecdotal"

> wiki: Anecdotal Evidence Yes, but you haven't explained why this is a problem though. Let's say a black man gets beaten by the police. It's just "anecdotal" in that he hasn't performed a study showing that it's a global issue, but it is irrefutable proof that police do beat up at least some black men. In this case, let's say that only our school was enacting these policies and that we the parents discovered it only by our personal observation of policy updates, why would that matter? We'd still want to change it. But in this case it actually is a widespread issue: https://archive.is/bZcXu https://archive.is/bZcXu "The high school, [the parents] argued, should reinstate honors English classes that were eliminated because they didn’t enroll enough Black and Latino students. The district earlier this school year replaced the honors classes at Culver City High School with uniform courses that officials say will ensure students of all races receive an equal, rigorous education." > "no ideological battles" You're the one having a battle, and over an ideology. Walk away or engage with the issue, either is fine, but you're attacking me directly, using labels (radical, reactionary, etc) and saying that I "know what I'm doing". You don't say what you'd do instead. You don't say why you support the policies, or would/wouldn't if they existed.

dmbche 3y ago
Please read the first paragraph of the wikipedia article, it'll clarify the issue. Please chat with your representative with all this wonderful evidence I'm sure you'll change their mind or they will gladly answer all your questions - I'm not a civil servant, I'll let them do it
- LawTalkingGuy 3y ago
  > Please read the first paragraph of the wikipedia article, it'll clarify the issue. No. It doesn't. Because we have the school boards saying this in this in their own words and publishing them in their policy updates. All the "limited in value" stuff in the Wiki article is about ad-hoc and poorly collected evidence and that doesn't apply here. We're pointing to their own words. > chat with your representative with all this wonderful evidence It's perfect evidence. It's their own policy statements with their own justification. A lot of people are like you initially but when they actually read the policies they come around - race-based rules are something most people feel icky about. I've seen people rudely dismiss a pamphlet about this from a white parent only to happily read and engage when approached by an asian parent only moments later. That's racist, but I understand because all the news pumps out is a constant stream of partisan race-baiting and it takes many people a while to turn off that defensiveness. > or they will gladly answer all your questions No, usually they refuse to let us even get on the agenda for meetings. > I'm sure you'll change their mind Thankfully we don't have to talk to our representatives when they're this dismissive, we can simply vote them out and we have been. But usually we find that at least half of them felt railroaded into these blatantly racist policies by a bunch of small frog-boiling policies and they're grateful for an opportunity to put things back in order.
  - dmbche 3y ago
    Just for kicks - you're white, aren't you?
    - LawTalkingGuy 3y ago
      Just for kicks, are you? And why does it matter? I'm part of a multi-racial group of parents. What does it matter if I'm the asian one or the white one or the black one?
      - dmbche 3y ago
        That's what I thought! Go chat with your reptesentative - or keep wasting your time here, I'm sure you don't have anything else better to do for this very important issue !

dmbche 3y ago

Please read the first paragraph of the wikipedia article, it'll clarify the issue. Please chat with your representative with all this wonderful evidence I'm sure you'll change their mind or they will gladly answer all your questions - I'm not a civil servant, I'll let them do it

LawTalkingGuy 3y ago
> Please read the first paragraph of the wikipedia article, it'll clarify the issue. No. It doesn't. Because we have the school boards saying this in this in their own words and publishing them in their policy updates. All the "limited in value" stuff in the Wiki article is about ad-hoc and poorly collected evidence and that doesn't apply here. We're pointing to their own words. > chat with your representative with all this wonderful evidence It's perfect evidence. It's their own policy statements with their own justification. A lot of people are like you initially but when they actually read the policies they come around - race-based rules are something most people feel icky about. I've seen people rudely dismiss a pamphlet about this from a white parent only to happily read and engage when approached by an asian parent only moments later. That's racist, but I understand because all the news pumps out is a constant stream of partisan race-baiting and it takes many people a while to turn off that defensiveness. > or they will gladly answer all your questions No, usually they refuse to let us even get on the agenda for meetings. > I'm sure you'll change their mind Thankfully we don't have to talk to our representatives when they're this dismissive, we can simply vote them out and we have been. But usually we find that at least half of them felt railroaded into these blatantly racist policies by a bunch of small frog-boiling policies and they're grateful for an opportunity to put things back in order.
- dmbche 3y ago
  Just for kicks - you're white, aren't you?
  - LawTalkingGuy 3y ago
    Just for kicks, are you? And why does it matter? I'm part of a multi-racial group of parents. What does it matter if I'm the asian one or the white one or the black one?
    - dmbche 3y ago
      That's what I thought! Go chat with your reptesentative - or keep wasting your time here, I'm sure you don't have anything else better to do for this very important issue !