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matter is the basis of all finally generates yields as the ultimate 'output': The as 'completed' scientific discipline called chemistry the point being how the
by hn_throawlles 3y ago
matter is the basis of all finally generates yields as the ultimate 'output': The as 'completed' scientific discipline called chemistry
the point being how they (chemistry as a cultural institution) owns so much technical know-how without which we cannot live like we do, and this knowledge is not innovating, nor nothing of the sort, it's in maintenance mode. this what I mean by "completed" discipline.
energy is the basis of all:
same as above but physics are the 'ultimate output'; as the completed discipline. I suppose this 'goal of 'completing physics' is not fully realized yet.
Except in some sub-disciplines like civil engineering (built on physics-science).
information is the basis of all:
still working on it. some mix of logic, philosophy, physics, and computer engineering/science must all output another 'completed scientific 'discipline. or completely re-draw physics as a cultural institution.
this article is all about this 'information'-awareness going over old biology
> a useful restatement of a lot of intuitive understanding
now with more 'information' as a substance guiding the intuition.
- svnt 3y agoYes it is the information leg of the stool. If you haven’t found the work of Melvin Vopson yet you might enjoy it.
- hn_throawlles 3y agointeresting... i don't buy the 'we live in a simulation' idea though. per my own living understanding, the simulation is in my head, each of us are running our own 'local instance' of this matrix/simulation. this is made out of culture understood as an expression of software (but understood as a substance, I guess on this much I do agree with Vopson, information as a fifth state of matter? interesting) finally, I think somebody should try to measure the gravitational contribution (if any?) of information. with the most precision that is available measure a difference between a flash card (or similar, the denser the best) in which it is all zeros Vs one with the most random, highest entropy, sequence of 0s and 1s stored in it.
- svnt 3y agoThey looked into this but the experiment they devised (erasing/writing the densest forms of information storage — an SD card I think (Vopson was in a former life a magnetic storage researcher/engineer)) required several orders of magnitude greater sensitivity in mass detection than the current state of the art. I’m also not totally certain it would have worked. The more recent proposal comes at it the opposite way: looking for two extra very low energy photons when a particle is demolished (representative of the Landauer limit).