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How hard is it likely to be, realistically, to figure out who got this money? That is way, way too big a windfall to effectively hide. Even getting rid of it wo

How hard is it likely to be, realistically, to figure out who got this money? That is way, way too big a windfall to effectively hide. Even getting rid of it would take an enormous amount of work, if you didn't want it. This is like with lottery winners - anonymity won't necessarily protect you. I'm not sure this encourages me to be a whistleblower... it would create so many more stressors after what was already a phenomenally stressful time. $10m or so would be easier to hide.

markus_zhang 3y ago
I think with that kind of $$$ it's impossible to be Anon. Someone better get out of the country, preferably to some places untouchable and lay low.
- ROTMetro 3y ago
  Unless they somehow did this against cartel guys or a motorcycle club this person has nothing to worry about.
- xmcqdpt2 3y ago
  I mean the person probably just forwarded emails and wore a wire during meetings with bank execs. It's the SEC not the FBI.
mattbrewsbytes 3y ago
This award has to be for something against a large financial firm, a $279M award is based on a % of the damage in some way I believe. The person likely had to be intimately familiar with whatever was reported so they are highly likely to know the ins and outs of dealing with large numbers of digits of money and financial products/solutions beyond what retail/layperson would be aware of. I think they might have ideas on what they would want to do with the money and/or already be financially well off that buying more things doesn't really make large life impacts anymore (i.e well into 6 digit earnings territory). I think its likely if they wanted this to not be publicly known its entirely plausible they could do that. Unless it is a low paid janitorial engineer that was reading the trash.
d23 3y ago
For 300 million dollars, I think I'd manage.
- ivraatiems 3y ago
  What if they threatened your family? Your kids? What if you had to move to another state or another country? Could you ever have normal friends again? Move around the world without a bodyguard and bulletproof windows? Large sums of money don't give you security in your current lifestyle. They completely and totally change your existence in permanent and often negative ways.
  - d23 3y ago
    The problem: where are you getting literally any of this from? You’ve hopped up like 4 chains of unfounded assumptions.
    - ivraatiems 3y ago
      This sort of thing happens to people who get windfalls all the time: https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/lottery-winners-no-happy-ending_uk_5c2f6c40e4b08aaf7a98a41a https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/lottery-winners-no-ha... https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna14723441 https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna14723441 https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/03/sudden-wealth-can-come-with-serious-emotional-and-financial-challenges.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/03/sudden-wealth-can-come-with-... and it coming from a whistleblower award against people you previously worked with will only make it a dozen times worse. This reddit post is a great retelling of the perils that await people who get these kinds of monetary windfalls: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/24vo34/comment/chb38xf/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/24vo34/comment/c...
      - fatfingerd 3y ago
        OTOH, it is generally the case that the outcome is unpredictable and we like to tell the stories where it is destructive even if in the average case it is overall beneficial. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35824058 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35824058
takinola 3y ago
I don't think the issue will be hiding that you have the money. That's almost trivial. The person next to you on the bus could have a huge amount of money but until they start spending, you have no way of knowing. However, given the size of the payment, it must be possible to work out what enforcement this award is related to. Once that is established, the court documents should reveal the potential whistleblower's identity.
- paulryanrogers 3y ago
  Can't court documents be sealed? And public documents use an alias?
  - flangola7 3y ago
    Sealed how? Unless they vaporize the documents and everyone who ever saw them, leaks remain likely.
htss2013 3y ago
What would happen with 100m that wouldn't happen with 10m? Seems like all of the same processes, traps and threats would exist for both, or at least 90% overlap.

markus_zhang 3y ago

I think with that kind of $$$ it's impossible to be Anon. Someone better get out of the country, preferably to some places untouchable and lay low.

ROTMetro 3y ago
Unless they somehow did this against cartel guys or a motorcycle club this person has nothing to worry about.
xmcqdpt2 3y ago
I mean the person probably just forwarded emails and wore a wire during meetings with bank execs. It's the SEC not the FBI.

mattbrewsbytes 3y ago

This award has to be for something against a large financial firm, a $279M award is based on a % of the damage in some way I believe. The person likely had to be intimately familiar with whatever was reported so they are highly likely to know the ins and outs of dealing with large numbers of digits of money and financial products/solutions beyond what retail/layperson would be aware of. I think they might have ideas on what they would want to do with the money and/or already be financially well off that buying more things doesn't really make large life impacts anymore (i.e well into 6 digit earnings territory). I think its likely if they wanted this to not be publicly known its entirely plausible they could do that. Unless it is a low paid janitorial engineer that was reading the trash.

d23 3y ago

For 300 million dollars, I think I'd manage.

ivraatiems 3y ago
What if they threatened your family? Your kids? What if you had to move to another state or another country? Could you ever have normal friends again? Move around the world without a bodyguard and bulletproof windows? Large sums of money don't give you security in your current lifestyle. They completely and totally change your existence in permanent and often negative ways.
- d23 3y ago
  The problem: where are you getting literally any of this from? You’ve hopped up like 4 chains of unfounded assumptions.
  - ivraatiems 3y ago
    This sort of thing happens to people who get windfalls all the time: https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/lottery-winners-no-happy-ending_uk_5c2f6c40e4b08aaf7a98a41a https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/lottery-winners-no-ha... https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna14723441 https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna14723441 https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/03/sudden-wealth-can-come-with-serious-emotional-and-financial-challenges.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/03/sudden-wealth-can-come-with-... and it coming from a whistleblower award against people you previously worked with will only make it a dozen times worse. This reddit post is a great retelling of the perils that await people who get these kinds of monetary windfalls: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/24vo34/comment/chb38xf/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/24vo34/comment/c...
    - fatfingerd 3y ago
      OTOH, it is generally the case that the outcome is unpredictable and we like to tell the stories where it is destructive even if in the average case it is overall beneficial. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35824058 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35824058

takinola 3y ago

I don't think the issue will be hiding that you have the money. That's almost trivial. The person next to you on the bus could have a huge amount of money but until they start spending, you have no way of knowing. However, given the size of the payment, it must be possible to work out what enforcement this award is related to. Once that is established, the court documents should reveal the potential whistleblower's identity.

paulryanrogers 3y ago
Can't court documents be sealed? And public documents use an alias?
- flangola7 3y ago
  Sealed how? Unless they vaporize the documents and everyone who ever saw them, leaks remain likely.

htss2013 3y ago

What would happen with 100m that wouldn't happen with 10m? Seems like all of the same processes, traps and threats would exist for both, or at least 90% overlap.