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It's unclear to what extent such corporate pushback against the USG is genuine conflict as opposed to theater/PR cover. I don't think it's a safe assumption eit
by smolder 3y ago
It's unclear to what extent such corporate pushback against the USG is genuine conflict as opposed to theater/PR cover. I don't think it's a safe assumption either way. The incentives to pretend industry has more independence than it does are there, and methods of such deception have been seen before.
- duxup 3y agoI think it is unlikely we have a conspiracy so vast, across a ton of companies that they put up fake legal fights, have fake warrant canary notices ... and nobody ever leaks out that they're all fake.
- smolder 3y agoIt doesn't require a vast conspiracy, certainly not something more vast than the kind of conspiracy that Snowden alerted everyone to. I would guess the truth is somewhere in the middle... That there is genuine pushback but also theatrics to project independence.
- duxup 3y ago>It doesn't require a vast conspiracy It would if we account for the fact that we haven't seen any reports of fake legal fights / warrant canaries and etc. >I would guess the truth is somewhere in the middle I don't understand this phrase, wouldn't that just mean the bigger lie / conspiracy wins every argument? How do you weigh such things reliably?
- ailef 3y agoThere doesn't need to be any conspiracy. If it's good for PR reasons to show they are fighting, companies will do it anyway without the need to coordinate.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y agoSo they are able to push back?