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> the government wants element/threema/telegram/whatsapp/signal to have a rep who will give them backdoor access and dance to their tune EVERY government does

> the government wants element/threema/telegram/whatsapp/signal to have a rep who will give them backdoor access and dance to their tune EVERY government does this (well OK, except for the really small ones). Why do you think the US wants to ban TikTok? Why do you think Al-Jazeera America exists? And let's not even talk about regimes like Russia and China. > if whatsapp is using signal protocol then by effect isn't it as secure as signal? You are incredibly naive.

2Gkashmiri 3y ago
What are you on about? Tiktok is about information control. Tiktok which is a China based org is gaining ground in USA is threatening american control over the narrative. Remember how everyone voted to boot parler suddenly? Doesn't China do same for american companies? The point here is about e2ee and backdoors. Nothing else. Your points about al Jazeera america are why? Tiktok? Does matrix work in China and russia? Do they comply there? Does american govt access other nations data with american companies which forced gdpr rules among others? Aren't signal fanboys claiming "no data to share" so why isn't that app used by terrorists in america? Why isn't that blocked there
- 1024core 3y ago
  > What are you on about? Sigh. Did you know TikTok was forced to form a company in America so it could comply with American rules? And BTW: the reason America does not care as much about these apps is because they have deeper hooks into phones and can get the data without worrying about encryption. They get their hands on the messages before they're even encrypted. I know, magic, right?
- tortoise_in 3y ago
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