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The difference is the US is a country with checks and balances of power. In China when the CCP says jump however, there’s no recourse
by simmerup 3y ago
The difference is the US is a country with checks and balances of power.
In China when the CCP says jump however, there’s no recourse
- falcolas 3y ago> checks and balances of power Only in theory, when it comes to National Security Letters. If you can't prove the government spied on you specifically, you can't take them to court to get a check or balance.
- ethbr0 3y agoIt's important to note that NSLs are an exception rather than a rule, and one over which a freely elected body (Congress) has oversight. I'm not sure the same claim can be made about China.
- falcolas 3y agoAn exception used around 10,000 times per year as of 2005. And congress hasn't done anything to reign them in. And I'll freely admit that China is going to be worse, with less oversight. But not only is the comparison a fallacy, it's cold comfort for the rest of the world (not to mention many non-naturalized American citizens).
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y agoWere they all Americans? How many warrants were served for comparison?
- pessimizer 3y agoYou should look that up.
- sudosysgen 3y agoThe NSA doesn't need an NSL to spy on non-Americans.
- throwaway742 3y agoIs it really oversight when our elected leaders are afraid of the people they are supposed to oversee? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW7EHai-cRM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW7EHai-cRM
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- ROTMetro 3y agoIn the Feds, you have 14 days to appeal your sentence. That is not fair access to a check. That time includes transfer from the court to a Federal Detention Center (lots of holding cell time with no access to a law library), transfer from a Federal Detention Center to your final place of incarceration via diesel therapy, etc. The USA used to allow unlimited time for appeals but that was clogging up the courts, so a happy balance between 0 and unlimited time to exercise your rights to access to the courts was agreed to, which the American Federal justice system determined to be 14 days (fun fact, they actually originally tried for a shorter appeal period than 14 days). Edit: Sorry, 14 days for the defendant to appeal. The Feds team gets longer (because they have less resources than a locked up person I guess, some animals have more rights than others in American courts) https://www.justice.gov/jm/jm-2-4000-time-appeal-or-petition-review-or-certiorari https://www.justice.gov/jm/jm-2-4000-time-appeal-or-petition...