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Creators can get paid in other ways. It's their choice to rely on something people both (rightfully) hate and are willing to block for revenue. If a creator mu

Creators can get paid in other ways. It's their choice to rely on something people both (rightfully) hate and are willing to block for revenue. If a creator must make a living by throwing State Farm ads in front of me again and again, I can't say I have much sympathy.

The_Colonel 4y ago
If you don't agree with creator's reward mechanism Simple then you can simply not consume their content.
- account42 3y ago
  If you don't agree with people consuming public content in whatever way they like, including stripping unwanted parts, you are free not to make your content public.
- ravenstine 4y ago
  Most "content" is not worth the bytes they are encoded in, so usually I don't.
- JohnFen 4y ago
  Since I don't "consume" any "content", job done!
corymovie 4y ago
Yeah, this. Term limits for politicians, no expectation of a career escalator for the public. Before world wars 90% of the public were independent workers. 1945-now is an anomaly. Adam Smith’s form of capitalism is one where workers move around constantly. That’s where the activity in the market should be, not Cramer shouting at us through TV. So sad Hollywood stars might have to do local theater rather than have disproportionate buying buyer; but its about their art and craft… right? Aligning our agency to the drum beat of linear productivity is a relic of the world war industrial production machine. Humans need the diversity of experience or reality feels fractal and we go mad over preservation of outdated ideals.
skilled 4y ago
Let me guess, your "other ways" include Patreon, maybe writing an eBook, or maybe spending 2 years to promote an affiliate product, or maybe spend 3 years building a product? Maybe creators can add a "Buy me a coffee" button to their site, that should surely fix the problems? There's a thing called stability and reliance on something. Ads is something you can rely on. It does not make you produce content and at the back of your mind think, "Am I going to pay my rent this month?". If you think everyone is out there making big bucks just because they opened a website and put some ads on it, you're wrong. Not only does it take time to build reputation and a following, people just don't out of the blue come and throw money at you. A lot of people have this notion that there is too much SEO spam and too many ads, but what I think a lot of people are really saying is that, "All I want is just free content. Give me a raw white background with a slab of text centered in the middle of it and I will be on my way.". That is not how this world works, and trying to argue about it just makes you look selfish.
- account42 3y ago
  Selfish is profiting from mass psychological manipulation. Advertising makes the world a worse place. > People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it. They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you. > You, however, are forbidden to touch them. Trademarks, intellectual property rights and copyright law mean advertisers can say what they like wherever they like with total impunity. > Fuck that. Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It’s yours to take, re-arrange and re-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head. > You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially don’t owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don’t even start asking for theirs.
- ravenstine 4y ago
chankstein38 4y ago
Right?! Aternos, a free on-demand minecraft server host, makes your experience trash if you block ads. However, in my experience, it's still better than having ads enabled. The ads continuously pop over things I'm working on, play music and videos, and frequently have no clear way to exit them until they're done. I'd rather just leave my ad blocker on and let them do their weird torture moves it's still better than having the ads shoved into my experience.

The_Colonel 4y ago

If you don't agree with creator's reward mechanism Simple then you can simply not consume their content.

account42 3y ago
If you don't agree with people consuming public content in whatever way they like, including stripping unwanted parts, you are free not to make your content public.
ravenstine 4y ago
Most "content" is not worth the bytes they are encoded in, so usually I don't.
JohnFen 4y ago
Since I don't "consume" any "content", job done!

corymovie 4y ago

Yeah, this. Term limits for politicians, no expectation of a career escalator for the public. Before world wars 90% of the public were independent workers. 1945-now is an anomaly. Adam Smith’s form of capitalism is one where workers move around constantly. That’s where the activity in the market should be, not Cramer shouting at us through TV. So sad Hollywood stars might have to do local theater rather than have disproportionate buying buyer; but its about their art and craft… right? Aligning our agency to the drum beat of linear productivity is a relic of the world war industrial production machine. Humans need the diversity of experience or reality feels fractal and we go mad over preservation of outdated ideals.

skilled 4y ago

Let me guess, your "other ways" include Patreon, maybe writing an eBook, or maybe spending 2 years to promote an affiliate product, or maybe spend 3 years building a product? Maybe creators can add a "Buy me a coffee" button to their site, that should surely fix the problems? There's a thing called stability and reliance on something. Ads is something you can rely on. It does not make you produce content and at the back of your mind think, "Am I going to pay my rent this month?". If you think everyone is out there making big bucks just because they opened a website and put some ads on it, you're wrong. Not only does it take time to build reputation and a following, people just don't out of the blue come and throw money at you. A lot of people have this notion that there is too much SEO spam and too many ads, but what I think a lot of people are really saying is that, "All I want is just free content. Give me a raw white background with a slab of text centered in the middle of it and I will be on my way.". That is not how this world works, and trying to argue about it just makes you look selfish.

account42 3y ago
Selfish is profiting from mass psychological manipulation. Advertising makes the world a worse place. > People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it. They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you. > You, however, are forbidden to touch them. Trademarks, intellectual property rights and copyright law mean advertisers can say what they like wherever they like with total impunity. > Fuck that. Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It’s yours to take, re-arrange and re-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head. > You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially don’t owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don’t even start asking for theirs.
ravenstine 4y ago

chankstein38 4y ago

Right?! Aternos, a free on-demand minecraft server host, makes your experience trash if you block ads. However, in my experience, it's still better than having ads enabled. The ads continuously pop over things I'm working on, play music and videos, and frequently have no clear way to exit them until they're done. I'd rather just leave my ad blocker on and let them do their weird torture moves it's still better than having the ads shoved into my experience.