I never said concatenative style is better than functional style (outside of very specific examples), so the person you think is wrong doesn’t actually exist. A

I never said concatenative style is better than functional style (outside of very specific examples), so the person you think is wrong doesn’t actually exist. Anyway, I agree all around. Although you can’t say for certain what makes a language popular or not, I think that picture of Clojure is pretty accurate. And I would love to see a functional language as powerful and carefully designed as Haskell, without all of that language’s minor annoyances and barriers to entry. Even though the Haskell culture is great, it’s unfortunate (to paraphrase SPJ) that they picked the scary term “monad” instead of “warm fuzzy friendly thing”.