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Are the homeless in Finland hooked on fentanyl and various other hard drugs? Is half of their homeless population suffering from mental illness (stemming from

Are the homeless in Finland hooked on fentanyl and various other hard drugs? Is half of their homeless population suffering from mental illness (stemming from and made worse by the psychosis from the hard drug use)? Do they have an illegal immigration problem? Is there a perverse incentive for politicians and their families to profit off suffering? The situation in the US imo is not at all equatable to most of the world. Hell I grew up in a third world country without running water and spotty electricity. Saw poverty like you wouldn’t believe but never saw junkies or thugs like you do in SF. I was walking around Market St and saw people dealing drugs and people just drugged out of their minds laying flat on the sidewalks. Horrible. Not to mention all the trash, graffiti, and other waste while brightly lit multi million/billion dollar tech company logos shine brightly above. America needs to become a stern father at some point and just set their kid right. First get clean and clear minded, we have too many fools that have been voted into power by even bigger fools. Or maybe it’s just a SF/big city loony tune.

vidarh 4y ago
The point of the Finnish experience, and plenty of evidence from elsewhere, is that you're far more likely to address drug abuse (yes, the Nordic countries also have drug problems) and other problems once people are housed. The US exceptionalism is almost always a cop-out. For a country that is supposedly so advanced, a shockingly high proportion of Americans seem convinced you can't possibly solve anything.
- danaris 4y ago
  "We're the best country in the world, so if there were a way, we would have found it already! The problem still exists, so obviously it's not solvable!"
- moomoo11 4y ago
  I think it’s due to the fact that there’s no “honor” system or any homogeneity in the population. I’m a naturalized citizen and US is my one and only home. It’s sad that half the people I meet seem to hate living here and even hate their own country. When I was in Japan there was a massive rainfall and Kyoto station was flooding. I saw a bunch of old people appear out of nowhere wearing bright vests and helping to remove the mud and water. I found out they were elderly volunteers and that it’s just something Japanese people do there. In the US I feel like it’s so rare to see that kind of unity unless it’s a situation already dialed to 11. The investor class in the US treats people here like cattle. And the cattle all know they’re fucked unless they can elevate into the investor class.
  - nerdyadventurer 4y ago
    I am glad you can see values in Asian culture, South and East Asians have respect for others specially elders, parents and take care of them.
    - moomoo11 4y ago
      I’m Asian too lol

vidarh 4y ago

The point of the Finnish experience, and plenty of evidence from elsewhere, is that you're far more likely to address drug abuse (yes, the Nordic countries also have drug problems) and other problems once people are housed. The US exceptionalism is almost always a cop-out. For a country that is supposedly so advanced, a shockingly high proportion of Americans seem convinced you can't possibly solve anything.

danaris 4y ago
"We're the best country in the world, so if there were a way, we would have found it already! The problem still exists, so obviously it's not solvable!"
moomoo11 4y ago
I think it’s due to the fact that there’s no “honor” system or any homogeneity in the population. I’m a naturalized citizen and US is my one and only home. It’s sad that half the people I meet seem to hate living here and even hate their own country. When I was in Japan there was a massive rainfall and Kyoto station was flooding. I saw a bunch of old people appear out of nowhere wearing bright vests and helping to remove the mud and water. I found out they were elderly volunteers and that it’s just something Japanese people do there. In the US I feel like it’s so rare to see that kind of unity unless it’s a situation already dialed to 11. The investor class in the US treats people here like cattle. And the cattle all know they’re fucked unless they can elevate into the investor class.
- nerdyadventurer 4y ago
  I am glad you can see values in Asian culture, South and East Asians have respect for others specially elders, parents and take care of them.
  - moomoo11 4y ago
    I’m Asian too lol