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> I lived in Finland for a while. Being homeless in that country is pretty hard core in the winter. Which is a reason that sheltering people there is not a nice

> I lived in Finland for a while. Being homeless in that country is pretty hard core in the winter. Which is a reason that sheltering people there is not a nice to have; you either shelter them or you collect their dead bodies in the morning. It's that simple. Unfortunately there are any number of people who would be happy with option B in this scenario.

dazc 4y ago
'Unfortunately there are any number of people who would be happy with option B in this scenario.' Since we are going on personal beliefs rather than hard facts, I suspect is number is very low.
- midoridensha 4y ago
  In western Europe, yes. In America, no.
  - redeeman 4y ago
    you do not have to be happy with something to not want to personally be responsibility. and to everyone here who thinks otherwise. there are millions of malnutritioned people, including children, in many parts of the world. And i put fourth that you are happy they starve and get sick and die. After all, you arent spending all your money and effort trying to fix it? is it not your problem? I would prefer that nobody is homeless, nobody starves, but at the same time, it is not my responsibility to do anything about it. Stealing my money via taxes and doing something(which to make it even worse, is a BAD something), is an attack on me
    - dazc 4y ago
      It is your responsibility, which is part of the reason why you pay taxes in the first place. The fact that so much of your money is misappropriated is another story though.
      - redeeman 4y ago
        I pay taxes because a regime with guns says I have to or they will take me away and put me behind bars. This is a crime against me
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- emodendroket 4y ago
  I would encourage you to wade into commentary on the man strangled to death on the NYC subway if you think it’s outlandish that some people see the lives of the homeless as essentially disposable. Or you could just scroll down to the person in this very discussion thread who more or less argues for deaths from exposure. Or we could look at preferences revealed by policy demands, which often take more of an "out of sight, out of mind" approach.
  - lordloki 4y ago
    The guy who was threatening people on the train? That's a dishonest comparison along with a dishonest assertion. First you are asserting that a lot of people supported his death,which is not the case. They supported someone doing something to stop him threatening others on the train, with his death being an unfortunate consequence of his own actions. Then you falsely use this violent individual to represent all homeless people in order to incorrectly assume there exists a large number of people who support the death of the homeless.
    - emodendroket 4y ago
      All this “violent individual” did was yell. Choking him to death is an extreme escalation. And I assure you it’s quite easy to log on to Twitter and read many comments that either outright cheer for the death or, more commonly, treat it with the same indifference you’d treat accidentally stepping on some ants.

dazc 4y ago

'Unfortunately there are any number of people who would be happy with option B in this scenario.' Since we are going on personal beliefs rather than hard facts, I suspect is number is very low.

midoridensha 4y ago
In western Europe, yes. In America, no.
- redeeman 4y ago
  you do not have to be happy with something to not want to personally be responsibility. and to everyone here who thinks otherwise. there are millions of malnutritioned people, including children, in many parts of the world. And i put fourth that you are happy they starve and get sick and die. After all, you arent spending all your money and effort trying to fix it? is it not your problem? I would prefer that nobody is homeless, nobody starves, but at the same time, it is not my responsibility to do anything about it. Stealing my money via taxes and doing something(which to make it even worse, is a BAD something), is an attack on me
  - dazc 4y ago
    It is your responsibility, which is part of the reason why you pay taxes in the first place. The fact that so much of your money is misappropriated is another story though.
    - redeeman 4y ago
      I pay taxes because a regime with guns says I have to or they will take me away and put me behind bars. This is a crime against me
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emodendroket 4y ago
I would encourage you to wade into commentary on the man strangled to death on the NYC subway if you think it’s outlandish that some people see the lives of the homeless as essentially disposable. Or you could just scroll down to the person in this very discussion thread who more or less argues for deaths from exposure. Or we could look at preferences revealed by policy demands, which often take more of an "out of sight, out of mind" approach.
- lordloki 4y ago
  The guy who was threatening people on the train? That's a dishonest comparison along with a dishonest assertion. First you are asserting that a lot of people supported his death,which is not the case. They supported someone doing something to stop him threatening others on the train, with his death being an unfortunate consequence of his own actions. Then you falsely use this violent individual to represent all homeless people in order to incorrectly assume there exists a large number of people who support the death of the homeless.
  - emodendroket 4y ago
    All this “violent individual” did was yell. Choking him to death is an extreme escalation. And I assure you it’s quite easy to log on to Twitter and read many comments that either outright cheer for the death or, more commonly, treat it with the same indifference you’d treat accidentally stepping on some ants.