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Cap’n Picard: “You are seeing this ship, all of us, from a unique perspective - from a child's point of view. It must seem terribly unfair and restrictive to y

Cap’n Picard: “You are seeing this ship, all of us, from a unique perspective - from a child's point of view. It must seem terribly unfair and restrictive to you. As adults, we don't always stop to consider how everything we say and do shapes the impressions of young people, but if you're judging us, as a people, by the way we treat our children - and I think there can be no better criterion - then you must understand how deeply we care for them. When our children are young, they don't understand what might be dangerous. Our rules are to keep them from harm, real or imagined, and that's part of the continuity of our Human species. When Clara grows up, she will make rules for her children, to protect them - as we protect her.” ST TNG - Imaginary Friend

1827163 4y ago
In the case of teenagers ~15+ that is nothing more than social dogma passed down the generations. Dogma that is considered taboo in society to challenge. Done for their supposed 'own good', in the name of 'care'. Preventing them from learning though natural consequences. And stunting their decision making skills. So it's a self fulfilling prophecy, if you micromanage someone you will end up creating incompetence, as we know all too well from the workplace. I cannot wait for the uprising or revolution to come against this in the decades to come. And I hope it will be spectacular. It's not a matter of if, it's just when. > "As adults, we don't always stop to consider how everything we say and do shapes the impressions of young people, but if you're judging us, as a people, by the way we treat our children - and I think there can be no better criterion - then you must understand how deeply we care for them." And it's reminiscent of a controlling partner who doesn't allow his wife to go out at night, over an absolute deep feeling of care for her. That still doesn't make it acceptable. Also "give me liberty, or give me death". A thought experiment: As an adult, would you choose personal freedom over other adults controlling your life, even if that control was found to actually make you more successful in life? > "When Clara grows up, she will make rules for her children, to protect them - as we protect her" Well, for me I'm not having children at all because of how society treats and micromanages them, especially teenagers. And when I was younger, I have even encouraged other people not to have children too (!). Take that, dogmatists (I'm not speaking against the original poster of this phrase, I'm just speaking towards society in general, especially those people who coddle children).
- ghusto 4y ago
  > I cannot wait for the uprising or revolution to come against this in the decades to come. And I hope it will be spectacular. It's not a matter of if, it's just when. There _will_ be a revolution, but it'll be in your head — when you're older.
- mixmastamyk 4y ago
  It sounds like you were affected by an out-of-the-ordinary experience. I was too—grew up in a "lord of the flies" environment. Wasn't as great as it sounds </sarcasm>. Took me a decade+ to dig out from that hole socially... one resulting from a lack of competent parental guidance. The experience limits my career to this day, a glass ceiling due to credentialism prevents me from taking advantage of the best opportunities. Also, no one told me until many years later that your brain does not fully mature until you're about twenty-five. So expect to do a lot of stupid shit until that age.

1827163 4y ago

In the case of teenagers ~15+ that is nothing more than social dogma passed down the generations. Dogma that is considered taboo in society to challenge. Done for their supposed 'own good', in the name of 'care'. Preventing them from learning though natural consequences. And stunting their decision making skills. So it's a self fulfilling prophecy, if you micromanage someone you will end up creating incompetence, as we know all too well from the workplace. I cannot wait for the uprising or revolution to come against this in the decades to come. And I hope it will be spectacular. It's not a matter of if, it's just when. > "As adults, we don't always stop to consider how everything we say and do shapes the impressions of young people, but if you're judging us, as a people, by the way we treat our children - and I think there can be no better criterion - then you must understand how deeply we care for them." And it's reminiscent of a controlling partner who doesn't allow his wife to go out at night, over an absolute deep feeling of care for her. That still doesn't make it acceptable. Also "give me liberty, or give me death". A thought experiment: As an adult, would you choose personal freedom over other adults controlling your life, even if that control was found to actually make you more successful in life? > "When Clara grows up, she will make rules for her children, to protect them - as we protect her" Well, for me I'm not having children at all because of how society treats and micromanages them, especially teenagers. And when I was younger, I have even encouraged other people not to have children too (!). Take that, dogmatists (I'm not speaking against the original poster of this phrase, I'm just speaking towards society in general, especially those people who coddle children).

ghusto 4y ago
> I cannot wait for the uprising or revolution to come against this in the decades to come. And I hope it will be spectacular. It's not a matter of if, it's just when. There _will_ be a revolution, but it'll be in your head — when you're older.
mixmastamyk 4y ago
It sounds like you were affected by an out-of-the-ordinary experience. I was too—grew up in a "lord of the flies" environment. Wasn't as great as it sounds </sarcasm>. Took me a decade+ to dig out from that hole socially... one resulting from a lack of competent parental guidance. The experience limits my career to this day, a glass ceiling due to credentialism prevents me from taking advantage of the best opportunities. Also, no one told me until many years later that your brain does not fully mature until you're about twenty-five. So expect to do a lot of stupid shit until that age.