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In comparison, Nadella is a bit above $50M which is gross underpay considering how Ballmer left the company. Nadella has been the best CEO in the past decade. I
by lvl102 3y ago
In comparison, Nadella is a bit above $50M which is gross underpay considering how Ballmer left the company. Nadella has been the best CEO in the past decade. In fact, you could argue that he’s the best investment manager in the past decade since MSFT is now a giant technology conglomerate. Better than Berkshire.
- strikelaserclaw 3y agoNadella is the scottie pippen of tech ceos.
- roflyear 3y agoWell the 226m vests over 3 years. So it's not so bad.
- endisneigh 3y agoSuch hyperbole. Apple is superior in every financial metric. I don’t know how anyone can say this with a straight face while apple exists.
- lvl102 3y agoWhat did Tim actually accomplish though? He’s there to essentially “keep” what Apple already established under Steve Jobs. Nadella made some big decisions to completely remake Microsoft. By the way, return (not including dividends) is about the same between AAPL and MSFT since Nadella took over on February 2014 which is simply amazing if you think about the differences between the two companies.
- eric-hu 3y agoI’ll credit Tim with giving Jony the boot and getting MagSafe back on my Mac.
- endisneigh 3y agoWhy downplay Tim Cook? If it is so obvious what to do why isn’t Microsoft a bigger company? Why make disruptive changes? Stay the course and refine. That’s apple, and that’s why they’re the biggest. That’s also why they didn’t foolishly overhire and why layoffs were not necessary for them. And finally, why wouldn’t include dividends? SMH
- lvl102 3y agoI am not downplaying Tim at all. He’s good at what he does but he and Nadella is not on the same level in terms of accomplishments. Tim was handed a silver platter that is iPhone. Nadella completely changed Microsoft.
- endisneigh 3y agoApple literally has updated all of their Macs to a new architecture. While competing with tens of vendors in every product category at a variety of price points. You are being absolutely ridiculous. Apple is literally stealing market share from Microsoft in every product category in which they compete.
- lvl102 3y agoThey quite literally put SOCs they started developing under Steve in Macs. You cannot be serious and think Tim Cook spearheaded M1 chip development. He’s a logistic and operations guy. He’s not a visionary.
- doublepg23 3y agoNot to mention the Apple Watch.
- dmonitor 3y agoApple not but three years ago transitioned their entire Mac lineup to a brand new architecture. That could have been disastrous.
- skeeter2020 3y agoExcept Mac sales account for less than 10% of their revenue, and as of Q2 this year are down 31%. If they completelyt disappeared it would be bad without anything like disastrous. If you're going to give credit to Tim Cook for doing something original point to boring, unsexy services: over $20B this quarter and 3x that brought in by Macs, with better margins.
- supernova87a 3y agoYou probably don't know or don't care, but there is more to running a company than producing a new hardware product line (which is important of course too). Under Tim Cook, Apple's business functions (procurement, manufacturing, operations, financing, retail) had an incredible change in efficiency and cash generating capability. Also, you may notice that Apple Services are an incredibly large and profitable business in their own right, having grown from nothing about a decade ago.
- lvl102 3y agoYou probably don’t know or don’t care, but most of Apple’s current logistic/infrastructure was built under Steve. Steve’s connections in China played a big role in accomplishing that.
- scarface74 3y agoYou realize that Tim Cook and not Steve Jobs was responsible for thar right as the COO? SJ had nothing to do with that.
- lvl102 3y agoReally? Steve Jobs had NOTHING to do with iPhone logistics. Interesting. Do you know that for fact? Were you at Apple and involved in the process?
- supernova87a 3y agoI was. Were you?
- scarface74 3y agohttps://appleinsider.com/articles/11/10/22/jobs_trusted_cook_to_know_exactly_what_to_do https://appleinsider.com/articles/11/10/22/jobs_trusted_cook...
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- moralestapia 3y agoCook was fundamental for Apple in becoming the company it is today. The stuff he has done in there, regarding logistics and operations, its real innovation on its own. I sympathize more w/ Nadella, but I would think that Cook is an even greater CEO than him.
- cogitoergofutuo 3y agoSuch hyperbole. Saudi Aramco is superior in every financial metric. I don’t know anyone can say this with a straight face while Aramco exists. (Since we’re bringing up companies nobody else mentioned)
- endisneigh 3y agoYes, Aramco is a competitor to apple.
- cogitoergofutuo 3y agoIf you think about it, every company is a competitor because they’re all competing for money
- primordialsoup 3y agoAnd resources at some level.
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- Aachen 3y agoSure it can be objectively good even if another is even better
- endisneigh 3y agoYa but the word used was best
- Invictus0 3y agoMicrosoft PE ratio: 33 Apple PE ratio: 28
- 19h 3y agoComparing any tech CEO's pay to Buffett's is silly. Buffett built Berkshire from scratch over 50+ years through incredibly savvy investments. Nadella inherited a tech giant and has kept the momentum going, but the scale and difficulty aren't really comparable.