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Mac revenue down 31% YoY but still above pre-pandemic levels. Mass WFH created unprecedented demand for desktop computers. Now sales are returning closer to th
by lapcat 4y ago
Mac revenue down 31% YoY but still above pre-pandemic levels.
Mass WFH created unprecedented demand for desktop computers. Now sales are returning closer to the norm.
- lucasyvas 4y agoKinda sounds like Apple should be more pro WFH :)
- deltree7 4y agoThe cable company that lays out fibers to enable people work from home can't have cable people work from home
- belltaco 4y agoApple devs don't need to travel to your home so you can use their software on your laptop or phone though.
- abathur 4y agoI do, from time to time, wish they would. :)
- Someone1234 4y agoThey said, Apple. Software developers, sales, legal, and so on absolutely can work from home and any company who wants us to believe their environmental claims would promote it.
- Keirmot 4y agoThey want US to work from home, not their employers.
- zitterbewegung 4y agoThat is true but since we haven’t seen M2 macs that can compete with used M1 products it is hard to justify upgrading or even purchasing. Also no follow up to the Mac Pro at all. It could be more like inflation is impacting Mac sales regardless.
- lapcat 4y ago> That is true but since we haven’t seen M2 macs that can compete with used M1 products it is hard to justify upgrading or even purchasing. It's not clear whether consumers do or even should distinguish between M1 and M2. > Also no follow up to the Mac Pro at all. Mac Pro sales have always been tiny portion of Mac sales and have very little effect on the big picture.
- AnthonyMouse 4y ago> It's not clear whether consumers do or even should distinguish between M1 and M2. The point being if you bought the M1 during the pandemic, you now have little reason to upgrade despite it being a 2020 processor in 2023.
- lapcat 4y agoThis has always been true though. Desktop upgrade cycles are not that fast, and longer than smartphones. Only processor transitions such as PowerPC to Intel and Intel to Apple Silicon give a good reason to upgrade within a few years.
- AnthonyMouse 4y agoThat's kind of the idea. But there are more than just instruction set transitions. The difference between the Pentium 4 and Core 2 or Bulldozer and Zen were stark. Even the Ryzen 7000 series has AVX-512, DDR5, PCIe 5.0 etc. It's frequently twice as fast as the 3000 series from 3 years earlier. The M2 isn't that kind of thing.
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- majormajor 4y agoThe shift away from Intel also created something of a backlog in demand - not for corporate, "need what we can get today," purchases, but for home use there was low desire to upgrade pre-M1 chip and then a big flood.
- rocketbop 4y agoAlso a lot of people bought M1 Macs in the previous year because they were the first good Macs since 2015, and didn’t need to buy again.
- antimora 4y agoAlso the trade-in price for M1 is 50% lower than on the used market. (Edit: buyout -> trade-in)
- muro 4y agoDo you mean when using it as a trade-in with Apple? Something else? Apologies, don't quite follow.
- eropple 4y agoI think the GP poster was referring to that, because (anecdotally but still) when I was selling an M1 Pro, Apple offered me $950 but I was able to sell it for $1500. I probably could've gotten more, but I wanted it out of the house.
- muro 4y agoRight, have a similar experience. Wanted to upgrade to one with a larger SSD as I'm always running out, but the trade-in price was ridiculous. Decided to keep what I have
- lapcat 4y agoWhen do you ever need to upgrade your desktop computer every year? Upgrade cycles are more like 4-6+ years.
- rocketbop 4y agoYes sure. I mean, many people hadn’t had an incentive to buy for several years and then a much improved machine came along, and many people bit. I certainly did, after years of hating my 2016 MacBook Pro.