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If you're technical just get yourself OpenAI API access which is super cheap and hook it up to your own self-hosted ChatGPT clone like https://github.com/magma-

If you're technical just get yourself OpenAI API access which is super cheap and hook it up to your own self-hosted ChatGPT clone like https://github.com/magma-labs/magma-chat https://github.com/magma-labs/magma-chat The wait for GPT-4 is not as long as it used to be, and when you're using the API directly there's no censorship.

rcpt 3y ago
> when you're using the API directly there's no censorship. Wait seriously?
- ineedasername 3y ago
  There’s a bit. When I used the openai playground I have received warnings about response potentially being bad, but using the API directly I don’t even get warnings like that. Testing things out, it will produce vile and hateful content on demand. However it won’t say anything. If I specifically tell it to use some words I get the same type of content warning but also an extra note about those words, and that I have to contact openai support if my use case truly requires their use. There’s also the fact that using or distributing such content is against TOS, so I suppose could simply ban you
- reissbaker 3y ago
  Not exactly. The "censorship" is the RLHF tuning in the chat models as far as I understand it; the API for the chat models is the same AFAIK. The base models don't have censorship, but there are no base models available for API access for GPT-4, only a chat model. You can use the GPT-3-era base models, but, well, they're not as good as GPT-4.
  - cubefox 3y ago
    Or you go to Microsoft Azure and use the GPT-3.5 base model: code-davinci-002. Though they could still use "observational" censorship there, i.e. analyze your prompt with a different model. OpenAI does that, not sure about Microsoft.
ineedasername 3y ago
Yep, I use the paid API, and it’s a lot more flexible than ChatGPT. I’d didn’t know about the self-hosted interface though: that will be my project for tomorrow morning, thanks! I’ve been on the GPT-4 waitlist for about 6 weeks, but I’m not sure what the typical wait is.
DesiLurker 3y ago
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ineedasername 3y ago
Magma wants me to use my google credentials to login. I’ll pass on that, it shouldn’t be required in anything self hosted which makes me distrust it a bit right off the bat.
chillfox 3y ago
"just get yourself OpenAI API access" Could you please describe how one "just" do that? I have been on the GPT-4 API waitlist since it was announced and I still don't have access to the GPT-4 API.
- taf2 3y ago
  Try again it’s very likely you will have better results if you try to ask more then once…
QkPrsMizkYvt 3y ago
Did you come across some other self-hosted ChatGPT clones that you can recommend?

rcpt 3y ago

> when you're using the API directly there's no censorship. Wait seriously?

ineedasername 3y ago
There’s a bit. When I used the openai playground I have received warnings about response potentially being bad, but using the API directly I don’t even get warnings like that. Testing things out, it will produce vile and hateful content on demand. However it won’t say anything. If I specifically tell it to use some words I get the same type of content warning but also an extra note about those words, and that I have to contact openai support if my use case truly requires their use. There’s also the fact that using or distributing such content is against TOS, so I suppose could simply ban you
reissbaker 3y ago
Not exactly. The "censorship" is the RLHF tuning in the chat models as far as I understand it; the API for the chat models is the same AFAIK. The base models don't have censorship, but there are no base models available for API access for GPT-4, only a chat model. You can use the GPT-3-era base models, but, well, they're not as good as GPT-4.
- cubefox 3y ago
  Or you go to Microsoft Azure and use the GPT-3.5 base model: code-davinci-002. Though they could still use "observational" censorship there, i.e. analyze your prompt with a different model. OpenAI does that, not sure about Microsoft.

ineedasername 3y ago

Yep, I use the paid API, and it’s a lot more flexible than ChatGPT. I’d didn’t know about the self-hosted interface though: that will be my project for tomorrow morning, thanks! I’ve been on the GPT-4 waitlist for about 6 weeks, but I’m not sure what the typical wait is.

DesiLurker 3y ago

ineedasername 3y ago

Magma wants me to use my google credentials to login. I’ll pass on that, it shouldn’t be required in anything self hosted which makes me distrust it a bit right off the bat.

chillfox 3y ago

"just get yourself OpenAI API access" Could you please describe how one "just" do that? I have been on the GPT-4 API waitlist since it was announced and I still don't have access to the GPT-4 API.

taf2 3y ago
Try again it’s very likely you will have better results if you try to ask more then once…

QkPrsMizkYvt 3y ago

Did you come across some other self-hosted ChatGPT clones that you can recommend?