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> [...] until late 2023, when the images will be produced every 10 minutes and released operationally for use in weather forecasts. Will they gatekeep that ima

by tpmx 3y ago

> [...] until late 2023, when the images will be produced every 10 minutes and released operationally for use in weather forecasts. Will they gatekeep that image feed? I'm assuming they will, but I would be delighted to read that my assumption is wrong. This is one thing the US government does so much better than most European governments. The US government-collected data tends to be open.

barbazoo 3y ago
I was just watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGWFg7EDnyY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGWFg7EDnyY and I wonder if some satellites encrypt the content before sending it to earth.
mthoms 3y ago
According to the site terms, the satellite imagery is available only for personal, non-commercial use and requires explicit permission otherwise. >This is one thing the US government does so much better than European governments. Their government-collected data tends to be open. Indeed.
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prewett 3y ago
That's because works created by the US Government are public domain (at least within the US). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_status_of_works_by_the_federal_government_of_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_status_of_works_by_t...
- tpmx 3y ago
  That makes so much sense. I wish the EU (and/or European countries in general) would enact something similar but I think may be too late to do the same here now. Way too many stupid little fiefdoms "owned" by socially powerful people with short-sighted self interests. The US did it in 1895 before the massive expansion of that particular social class. Smart. (I guess a similar social class is doing very well in "non-profits" in the US these days, instead.)
- orbital-decay 3y ago
  Scientific datasets from unique projects are typically embargoed for several months, to give the participating scientists time to publish. This is also true for the US.
aeroman 3y ago
I suspect it will at least be publicly available, although there might be some terms attached (I don't know). SEVIRI (the current instrument) has data available through the EUMETSAT data store. It was a while since I registered, but it was at least free for personal/educational/research use at that point. edit to add - the current iamgery is also available here [2]. Excellent if you want some psycadellic composite imagery. Day microphysics is a personal favourite, although I am biased... [3] [1] - https://data.eumetsat.int/extended?query=High%20Rate%20SEVIRI%20Level%201.5%20Image%20Data%20-%20MSG%20-%200%20degree https://data.eumetsat.int/extended?query=High%20Rate%20SEVIR... [2] - https://eumetview.eumetsat.int/static-images/latestImages.html https://eumetview.eumetsat.int/static-images/latestImages.ht... [3] - https://eumetview.eumetsat.int/static-images/MSG/RGB/MICROPHYSICS/ https://eumetview.eumetsat.int/static-images/MSG/RGB/MICROPH...
- tpmx 3y ago
  (Thanks for those links.) > at least free for personal/educational/research use That's closer to gatekept than open, IMO.
plantain 3y ago
Yes, they will strongly gate keep it, as is typical for publicly funded data in Europe :( It'll be part of the same licence structure - 8000 euros per year for a licence to use and distribute, 4000 without distribution.
sangnoir 3y ago
> This is one thing the US government does so much better than most European governments. That's due to a difference in governing laws: Works prepared by Government employees in the furtherance of their official duties are not copyrightable in the United States (17 U.S.C. 105), and are in the public domain. Therefore, copying these works is not infringing any copyright

by tpmx 3y ago

barbazoo 3y ago

I was just watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGWFg7EDnyY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGWFg7EDnyY and I wonder if some satellites encrypt the content before sending it to earth.

mthoms 3y ago

According to the site terms, the satellite imagery is available only for personal, non-commercial use and requires explicit permission otherwise. >This is one thing the US government does so much better than European governments. Their government-collected data tends to be open. Indeed.

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prewett 3y ago

That's because works created by the US Government are public domain (at least within the US). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_status_of_works_by_the_federal_government_of_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_status_of_works_by_t...

tpmx 3y ago
That makes so much sense. I wish the EU (and/or European countries in general) would enact something similar but I think may be too late to do the same here now. Way too many stupid little fiefdoms "owned" by socially powerful people with short-sighted self interests. The US did it in 1895 before the massive expansion of that particular social class. Smart. (I guess a similar social class is doing very well in "non-profits" in the US these days, instead.)
orbital-decay 3y ago
Scientific datasets from unique projects are typically embargoed for several months, to give the participating scientists time to publish. This is also true for the US.

aeroman 3y ago

I suspect it will at least be publicly available, although there might be some terms attached (I don't know). SEVIRI (the current instrument) has data available through the EUMETSAT data store. It was a while since I registered, but it was at least free for personal/educational/research use at that point. edit to add - the current iamgery is also available here [2]. Excellent if you want some psycadellic composite imagery. Day microphysics is a personal favourite, although I am biased... [3] [1] - https://data.eumetsat.int/extended?query=High%20Rate%20SEVIRI%20Level%201.5%20Image%20Data%20-%20MSG%20-%200%20degree https://data.eumetsat.int/extended?query=High%20Rate%20SEVIR... [2] - https://eumetview.eumetsat.int/static-images/latestImages.html https://eumetview.eumetsat.int/static-images/latestImages.ht... [3] - https://eumetview.eumetsat.int/static-images/MSG/RGB/MICROPHYSICS/ https://eumetview.eumetsat.int/static-images/MSG/RGB/MICROPH...

tpmx 3y ago
(Thanks for those links.) > at least free for personal/educational/research use That's closer to gatekept than open, IMO.

plantain 3y ago

Yes, they will strongly gate keep it, as is typical for publicly funded data in Europe :( It'll be part of the same licence structure - 8000 euros per year for a licence to use and distribute, 4000 without distribution.

sangnoir 3y ago

> This is one thing the US government does so much better than most European governments. That's due to a difference in governing laws: Works prepared by Government employees in the furtherance of their official duties are not copyrightable in the United States (17 U.S.C. 105), and are in the public domain. Therefore, copying these works is not infringing any copyright