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I've had this (cough) "opportunity" in my Tesla for as long as I can remember. (Dual-motor Model 3, it's well-known that it's mostly software differences to mak

I've had this (cough) "opportunity" in my Tesla for as long as I can remember. (Dual-motor Model 3, it's well-known that it's mostly software differences to make it the performance version.) Guess what: My Tesla is fast enough. I don't feel any need to pay more money to make it go faster. (I'm not going to whine about rent-seeking or how I own it and I should be able to do what I want with it. Instead, I'm going to point out that:) Market forces will always push costs down and performance up. If a car company decides to artificially cripple their car so that you feel forced to pay extra; another car company is going to see that as a golden opportunity to undercut. Market forces will make sure that cars are "fast enough" at base price, because only timid drivers want an artificially slow car. (And, yes, my Tesla does have an option to make the car artificially slow.)

my_usernam3 4y ago
> it's well-known that it's mostly software differences to make it the performance version. Do you have a source of this, news to me
- electriclove 4y ago
  https://ingenext.ca/products/ghost-upgrade https://ingenext.ca/products/ghost-upgrade
  - iknowstuff 4y ago
    Not quite the Performance level.
    - electriclove 4y ago
      Why do you say that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFQi5R0S-M0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFQi5R0S-M0
- rootusrootus 4y ago
  It's true for early AWD LR Model 3s. The motors were the same used on the P version, just software limited. It's no longer true, current LRs do not get the same motor the P does, so cannot be software unlocked to full P performance.
spokeonawheel 4y ago
but what about when its not?
hpb42 4y ago
> If a car company decides to artificially cripple their car so that you feel forced to pay extra; another car company is going to see that as a golden opportunity to undercut. Or to join forces in a cartel. This was the reasoning behind the Phoebus Cartel[0], although in the business of incandescent lamps not car manufacturing. Osram, Philips, Tungsram, Associated Electrical Industries, ELIN, Compagnie des Lampes, International General Electric, and the GE Overseas Group were part of this organization to reduce the longevity of lamps to increase sales. It is a fascinating story :( [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel

my_usernam3 4y ago

> it's well-known that it's mostly software differences to make it the performance version. Do you have a source of this, news to me

electriclove 4y ago
https://ingenext.ca/products/ghost-upgrade https://ingenext.ca/products/ghost-upgrade
- iknowstuff 4y ago
  Not quite the Performance level.
  - electriclove 4y ago
    Why do you say that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFQi5R0S-M0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFQi5R0S-M0
rootusrootus 4y ago
It's true for early AWD LR Model 3s. The motors were the same used on the P version, just software limited. It's no longer true, current LRs do not get the same motor the P does, so cannot be software unlocked to full P performance.

spokeonawheel 4y ago

but what about when its not?

hpb42 4y ago

> If a car company decides to artificially cripple their car so that you feel forced to pay extra; another car company is going to see that as a golden opportunity to undercut. Or to join forces in a cartel. This was the reasoning behind the Phoebus Cartel[0], although in the business of incandescent lamps not car manufacturing. Osram, Philips, Tungsram, Associated Electrical Industries, ELIN, Compagnie des Lampes, International General Electric, and the GE Overseas Group were part of this organization to reduce the longevity of lamps to increase sales. It is a fascinating story :( [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel