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I don't think you or OP or anyone else here is trying to offend. Nor do I think most people hearing the term would find it offensive. But like I said: the alte

• catiopatio 3y ago
  It’s not more descriptive, and it created the issue. The patterns aren’t just deceptive — they’re underhanded, scheming, unscrupulous, perfidious … in other words, dark. None of which has a whit to do with race.
  • eli 3y ago
    I don't follow your point. "Dark" is obviously a much broader word that can mean many different things. It is less precise than "deceptive" and here it's being used metaphorically while "deceptive" is straightforward and literal (albeit less poetic). Surely you would agree that someone encountering the term out of context would have a much harder time guessing what "dark patterns" means versus "deceptive patterns"?
• _gabe_ 3y ago
  > But like I said: the alternative is both more descriptive and avoids the issue What issue? Dark is used in the sense that the tactics are hidden. As in, you can't see stuff in the dark. The real issue here is people automatically conflating every usage of the words dark or black with race. Not everybody sees the world through the lens of race. In fact, you'll find the light vs the dark theme was used in cultures all over the world, not stemming from racism but from the fact that you conceal evil deeds in the night when it's dark outside[0]. [0]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-and-white_dualism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-and-white_dualism