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>Midjourney is more popular (from what I'm seeing) than Stable Diffusion at the moment because it's better at the moment. Midjourney is closed-source. Midjourn

>Midjourney is more popular (from what I'm seeing) than Stable Diffusion at the moment because it's better at the moment. Midjourney is closed-source. Midjourney is easier, its not better. The low barrier to entry has it popular, but it isnt as realistic, doesnt follow the prompt as well, and has almost no customization. SD is the holy grail of AI art, if you can afford a computer or server to run SD + have the ability to figure out how to install python, clone Automatic1111 from git, and run the installer, its the best. Those 3 steps are too much for most people, so they default to something more like an app. Maybe it is too soon, but it seems SD has already won. MJ is like using MS paint, where SD is like photoshop.

ketzo 3y ago
Do you have a link to a decent tutorial for someone to do what you're describing in the last paragraph?
- hospitalJail 3y ago
  Do you need additional detail that cannot be found here? https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui Or are you looking for the cutting edge stuff like control net? If you want to use colab instead, I used this a month or two ago. https://colab.research.google.com/github/TheLastBen/fast-stable-diffusion/blob/main/fast_stable_diffusion_AUTOMATIC1111.ipynb https://colab.research.google.com/github/TheLastBen/fast-sta... I hope other people can give you further reading.
- erichocean 3y ago
  There are dozens on YouTube. My kids did it, and they don't even program and had never touched Python in their life. Even trained their own models using a cloud GPU. The SD ecosystem is wild.
- xhrpost 3y ago
  It took me a little hunting, but thanks to Reddit I eventually found a cloud-gpu host that provides a working Stable Diffusion image. So you basically don't have to do anything that GP said. Everything is installed and you just rent the hardware. https://www.runpod.io/console/templates https://www.runpod.io/console/templates Look for "RunPod Stable Diffusion". I spent a whole $0.35/hr playing around with my own SD instance that I had running in minutes.
  - ZephyrBlu 3y ago
    35c/hr seems crazy expensive compared to Midjourney. Midjourney gives you set fast hours (Immediate GPU) and unlimited relaxed hours (Delayed GPU). It also has a lot of built-in parameters you can use to easily tweak images. I'd rather pay for MJ than run my own SD. The main upside of running your own SD is that you can completely automate it, but I'm not sure how useful that really is.
    - dragonwriter 3y ago
      > The main upside of running your own SD is that you can completely automate it No, the main upside of running your own SD web UI is that you can select and deploy your own checkpoints (not just using the base SD models), LoRas, embeddings, upscaling models, and UI plugins supporting additional services/models/features like multidiffusion (bigger gens and controls of which areas within the image different prompts apply to), ControlNet and associated models, video synthesis, combinatorial prompts, prompt shifting during generation to do blending effects, and, well, a million other things. Also, you can completely automate it.
    - ImprobableTruth 3y ago
      The midjourney price would be equivalent to ~100 hours cloud time. How is that crazy expensive?
      - deleted 3y ago
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  - jamilton 3y ago
    You can do the same thing on vast.ai too. It's a little inconvenient to use non-base models and plugins this way (you pay extra for more storage), but it's definitely an easy way to use the full power of SD.
- enlyth 3y ago
  https://rentry.org/sdg-link https://rentry.org/sdg-link
HelloMcFly 3y ago
> Midjourney is easier, its not better Does being easier not influence whether it's better? I mean this in that for many of the ways AI art would be used, MJ already seems to be "good enough" at a lot of it. Secondarily: doesn't Midjourney's increased user base and increased ratings they get from users help it refine its model, thus meaning that "ease of use" creates a feedback loop with "quality of output" because more users are engaged? I'm asking real questions, not making a statement I believe in and just adding a question mark.
- JoeScylla 3y ago
  > Does being easier not influence whether it's better? I mean this in that for many of the ways AI art would be used, MJ already seems to be "good enough" at a lot of it. > ... > I'm asking real questions, not making a statement I believe in and just adding a question mark. In my opinion, it is tedious to discuss whether Midjourney or Stable Diffusion is better. Both are tools with their own strengths and weaknesses. Midjourney - Comparable to a ready-made consumer product. - Easy to use and you get excellent results quickly. - The feature set is limited. So you can't influence so well how the result should look like. - Restrictions on what you can generate with it (gore, nudes). - Fee required. Stable Diffusion - Comparable to a development kit. Technical, Difficult to use, different tools that you have to configure and use correctly. - For excellent results you have to invest much more time. - Extensive feature set (inpaining, outpaining, upscaling, ControlNet, many different models, LORAs, textual inversions). You can much better define how the result should look like. - No restrictions on what you can generate. - Free if you install it locally.
- hospitalJail 3y ago
  >Does being easier not influence whether it's better? As mentioned, what is better, MS Paint or photoshop? If MJ ignores your prompt and spits out a half related picture, are you going to continue using it? If anything MJ is a stepping stone to SD. You get a taste of AI art, but want to do something specific that MJ cannot do. You learn about control-net, alternative models, inpainting, etc... and you decide you need to move on from MS Paint to Photoshop. I personally used free AI art(cant remember which), it was super cool, but quickly I wanted to use different models and generate thousands of pictures at a time. I wanted to make gifs, img2img, etc... and the only people doing that were on SD.
dragonwriter 3y ago
> SD is the holy grail of AI art, if you can afford a computer or server to run SD + have the ability to figure out how to install python, clone Automatic1111 from git, and run the installer, its the best. If you can afford Colab (which is free if you don’t want to use it too much), you can just click one of the existing A1111 colabs and run that, you don’t need to figure out python, git, or A1111 installs.
- LordDragonfang 3y ago
  Free Colabs have started blocking any SD web-ui it detects (presumably because it's meant as a community service for ML researchers, not for people who want to play hentai gacha, and they're running out of server time)
- kyleyeats 3y ago
  Google is cracking down on this recently.
  - flangola7 3y ago
    Cracking down on what exactly?
    - kyleyeats 3y ago
      TLDR here: https://twitter.com/thechrisperry/status/1649189902079381505 https://twitter.com/thechrisperry/status/1649189902079381505
robinsord 3y ago
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lrem 3y ago
Are you sure about this? For the couple things I tried, a colleague with Midjourney managed to outperform my attempts with SD by leaps and bounds.
- jamilton 3y ago
  There's a higher "skill ceiling" with SD. You can install different models for different styles or subjects, use ControlNet for composition, and use plugins to do things you can't easily do with MJ.
tysam_and 3y ago
Midjourney is higher quality by a fair bit, from my personal experience and from being near a few of the top early AI artists for a good little while.
- Workaccount2 3y ago
  Is midjourneys model actually better? I was under the impression that midjourney was just running a form of SD and it's real secret sauce are the peripheral prompts it injects on the backend along with your prompts. I could be totally off the mark here.
  - jaxboxer 3y ago
    To me it is like saying oil is better than acrylics. These statements have no meaning when it comes to art.
  - famouswaffles 3y ago
    The model is obviously massively better. and they haven't been using SD in any form since the test mode of v3. the models are trained from scratch.
- sixothree 3y ago
  Is midjourney still using discord as its primary user interface? That really turned me off.
  - chefandy 3y ago
    Yes-- a classmate uses it. They do @everyone announces in their server every day, and while you can mute actual notifications, it still adds one to your badge count. My attention is too valuable-- that would get me to cancel my subscription.
    - sixothree 3y ago
      When I used it, it didn't feel like a product. It felt like a demo. If I have to rely on some bot in a public forum, I'm not sure I like this product.
mdorazio 3y ago
> Midjourney is easier, its not better. By what measure? Midjourney v5 is massively better with every prompt topic I've thrown at it than SD. It's not even close. SD, however, is much better if you want an actual customizable toolchain or to do things like train it on your own face/character.
- ZephyrBlu 3y ago
  They also just released v5.1, which seems to be quite a bit better than v5.
  - cubefox 3y ago
    Is there a comparison? It is interesting that there do not seem to be any Midjourney benchmarks. E.g. https://paperswithcode.com/sota/text-to-image-generation-on-coco?tag_filter=188 https://paperswithcode.com/sota/text-to-image-generation-on-... Parti and Imagen are still on top, followed by Dall-E 2. If their model is so great, why are they afraid of benchmarks?
    - gallabytes 3y ago
      I literally just don't feel like running them tbh, and see no reason to publish them either way. Mostly prefer to let the outputs speak for themselves. For a while I was using an FID variant for evaluation during training, but didn't find it very helpful vs just looking at output images.
      - cubefox 3y ago
        Okay. That's probably the difference between a commercial and a research project.
- fumar 3y ago
  Agreed. I pay for MJ and have several SD versions running on my PC. I like the ability to fine tune the SD models and my Pc with a 4090 is plenty fast, but I can't match MJ's output on artistic quality. SD allows for 4k sized outputs which is great but I can't use the art like I would like. FWIW the SD NSFW community is large but that is not where I invest my time with AI art.
BoorishBears 3y ago
I have SD up on a machine with a 3090 and it can't produce output half as good as MJ without a ton of work. I use SD to augment MJ, like fixing hands with specific LORAs for example, so I definitely appreciate that it exists. But for actually creating a full image in one shot, they're not even comparable.
chefandy 3y ago
That seems to depend on your use case. Frankly, I don't have much use for either of them but Midjourney was much closer. I've twice spent a couple of hours unsuccessfully trying to generate a simple background image that would be blurred out when rendering 3D models. SD out-of-the-box was far worse, but Midjourney still was not up to the task. It's incredible how well they can generate images of nearly any subject/object and make some changes to the style and placement, but trying to precisely achieve critical broad-stroke things like like perspective, sizing, lighting direction/amount/temperature, etc. was far too cumbersome. Prompt refining is just like having a program with a bunch of nebulous undocumented menu entries that you just have to click on to see what they do rather than just giving you the tools to make what you need to make. Was that the right entry or the wrong entry? Who knows! Maybe just try it again to see if it works better! There's a fundamental disconnect between professional-level and consumer-level tools. Consumer tools must be approachable, easy to use, quickly yield appealing results, affordable, and require little maintenance. Professional tools need to be precise, reliable, capable of repeated results with the most demanding tasks, and easily serviceable into perfect working order. These are consumer-level tools. If you merely need a cool picture of a space ship done in such and such style with such and such guns blah blah blah (that for some reason always looks 10%-50% Thomas Kinkaid,) these tools are great, but they abstract away the controls that really matter in professional work. Novices who get overwhelmed by all of those factors love it because they don't understand, and probably don't care about what they're giving up. For serious work, aside from getting inspo images or maybe generating deliberately weird bits of whatever, they're hit-or-miss at best. Without exception, doing a rough mock-up in a modelling program took FAR less time than trying to wrangle exactly what I needed from one of those generators. I'm sure they'll get there someday but right now they're miles away from being professional-quality image generation tools.
- chefandy 3y ago
  I will say though that low-effort higher-volume professionals (e.g. mobile game mills, Fiverrrr designers) will likely profit from these tools once they can out-compete cheap online assets from stock images/models/etc. but they're so not there yet.
- jstarfish 3y ago
contravert 3y ago
I just want to add my $0.02 currently working at a games studio that is integrating AI generated art into our art pipelines. Midjourney definitely generates really high quality art based on simple prompts, but the inability to really customize the output basically kills its utility. We heavily use Stable Diffusion with specific models and ControlNet to get customizable and consistent results. Our artists also need to extensively tweak and post-process the output, and re-run it again in Stable Diffusion. This entire workflow is definitely beyond a Discord-based interface to say the least.
- tomng 3y ago
  Really curious about the challenges you've been seeing as your art team's been trying to integrate AI generated art into your pipeline. Excited by the potential for artists to accelerate their creative process with advances like ControlNet, but makes sense there's a lot frustrating about the process today. Exploring tools that might help. If you might be interested in chatting, email me at tom@adobe.com. Thanks!
- jononor 3y ago
  If you would give a talk about this, I would watch it - despite being out of the graphics for almost 10 years now. Really want to hear from the trenches about the workflows, benefits and challenges you have.
  - pjgalbraith 3y ago
    Here is a test I did the other day of rough sketch (hand drawn) -> clean line work (AI) -> coloured (AI). This workflow gives 100% control over the output because you can easily adjust the linework in the intermediary step. https://twitter.com/P_Galbraith/status/1649317290926825473?cxt=HHwWgoDT-c3VxuMtAAAA https://twitter.com/P_Galbraith/status/1649317290926825473?c... This is using Stable Diffusion and the Control Net Lineart Model. The coloured version is pretty rough but it was a quick test. In my opinion Stable Diffusion is vastly superior to Midjourney if you have the skill to provide input to img2img/ControlNet. I have some other earlier workflow experiments on Youtube if you're interested in this kind of thing https://www.youtube.com/pjgalbraith https://www.youtube.com/pjgalbraith
yieldcrv 3y ago
Midjourney retrains itself, I have one click installer apps for SD, Midjourney and the live prompt community is very good None of this stuff is copyrightable so I dont care that its not private
coffeebeqn 3y ago
Midjourney is more niche. It’s great at photographs, digital art, concept art, game art and everything in that sphere. Because that’s what it was trained on. So it has a specific style. Dall-E in comparison produces kind of garbage looking pictures of many more styles

ketzo 3y ago

Do you have a link to a decent tutorial for someone to do what you're describing in the last paragraph?

hospitalJail 3y ago
Do you need additional detail that cannot be found here? https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui Or are you looking for the cutting edge stuff like control net? If you want to use colab instead, I used this a month or two ago. https://colab.research.google.com/github/TheLastBen/fast-stable-diffusion/blob/main/fast_stable_diffusion_AUTOMATIC1111.ipynb https://colab.research.google.com/github/TheLastBen/fast-sta... I hope other people can give you further reading.
erichocean 3y ago
There are dozens on YouTube. My kids did it, and they don't even program and had never touched Python in their life. Even trained their own models using a cloud GPU. The SD ecosystem is wild.
xhrpost 3y ago
It took me a little hunting, but thanks to Reddit I eventually found a cloud-gpu host that provides a working Stable Diffusion image. So you basically don't have to do anything that GP said. Everything is installed and you just rent the hardware. https://www.runpod.io/console/templates https://www.runpod.io/console/templates Look for "RunPod Stable Diffusion". I spent a whole $0.35/hr playing around with my own SD instance that I had running in minutes.
- ZephyrBlu 3y ago
  35c/hr seems crazy expensive compared to Midjourney. Midjourney gives you set fast hours (Immediate GPU) and unlimited relaxed hours (Delayed GPU). It also has a lot of built-in parameters you can use to easily tweak images. I'd rather pay for MJ than run my own SD. The main upside of running your own SD is that you can completely automate it, but I'm not sure how useful that really is.
  - dragonwriter 3y ago
    > The main upside of running your own SD is that you can completely automate it No, the main upside of running your own SD web UI is that you can select and deploy your own checkpoints (not just using the base SD models), LoRas, embeddings, upscaling models, and UI plugins supporting additional services/models/features like multidiffusion (bigger gens and controls of which areas within the image different prompts apply to), ControlNet and associated models, video synthesis, combinatorial prompts, prompt shifting during generation to do blending effects, and, well, a million other things. Also, you can completely automate it.
  - ImprobableTruth 3y ago
    The midjourney price would be equivalent to ~100 hours cloud time. How is that crazy expensive?
    - deleted 3y ago
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- jamilton 3y ago
  You can do the same thing on vast.ai too. It's a little inconvenient to use non-base models and plugins this way (you pay extra for more storage), but it's definitely an easy way to use the full power of SD.
enlyth 3y ago
https://rentry.org/sdg-link https://rentry.org/sdg-link

HelloMcFly 3y ago

> Midjourney is easier, its not better Does being easier not influence whether it's better? I mean this in that for many of the ways AI art would be used, MJ already seems to be "good enough" at a lot of it. Secondarily: doesn't Midjourney's increased user base and increased ratings they get from users help it refine its model, thus meaning that "ease of use" creates a feedback loop with "quality of output" because more users are engaged? I'm asking real questions, not making a statement I believe in and just adding a question mark.

JoeScylla 3y ago
> Does being easier not influence whether it's better? I mean this in that for many of the ways AI art would be used, MJ already seems to be "good enough" at a lot of it. > ... > I'm asking real questions, not making a statement I believe in and just adding a question mark. In my opinion, it is tedious to discuss whether Midjourney or Stable Diffusion is better. Both are tools with their own strengths and weaknesses. Midjourney - Comparable to a ready-made consumer product. - Easy to use and you get excellent results quickly. - The feature set is limited. So you can't influence so well how the result should look like. - Restrictions on what you can generate with it (gore, nudes). - Fee required. Stable Diffusion - Comparable to a development kit. Technical, Difficult to use, different tools that you have to configure and use correctly. - For excellent results you have to invest much more time. - Extensive feature set (inpaining, outpaining, upscaling, ControlNet, many different models, LORAs, textual inversions). You can much better define how the result should look like. - No restrictions on what you can generate. - Free if you install it locally.
hospitalJail 3y ago
>Does being easier not influence whether it's better? As mentioned, what is better, MS Paint or photoshop? If MJ ignores your prompt and spits out a half related picture, are you going to continue using it? If anything MJ is a stepping stone to SD. You get a taste of AI art, but want to do something specific that MJ cannot do. You learn about control-net, alternative models, inpainting, etc... and you decide you need to move on from MS Paint to Photoshop. I personally used free AI art(cant remember which), it was super cool, but quickly I wanted to use different models and generate thousands of pictures at a time. I wanted to make gifs, img2img, etc... and the only people doing that were on SD.

dragonwriter 3y ago

> SD is the holy grail of AI art, if you can afford a computer or server to run SD + have the ability to figure out how to install python, clone Automatic1111 from git, and run the installer, its the best. If you can afford Colab (which is free if you don’t want to use it too much), you can just click one of the existing A1111 colabs and run that, you don’t need to figure out python, git, or A1111 installs.

LordDragonfang 3y ago
Free Colabs have started blocking any SD web-ui it detects (presumably because it's meant as a community service for ML researchers, not for people who want to play hentai gacha, and they're running out of server time)
kyleyeats 3y ago
Google is cracking down on this recently.
- flangola7 3y ago
  Cracking down on what exactly?
  - kyleyeats 3y ago
    TLDR here: https://twitter.com/thechrisperry/status/1649189902079381505 https://twitter.com/thechrisperry/status/1649189902079381505

robinsord 3y ago

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lrem 3y ago

Are you sure about this? For the couple things I tried, a colleague with Midjourney managed to outperform my attempts with SD by leaps and bounds.

jamilton 3y ago
There's a higher "skill ceiling" with SD. You can install different models for different styles or subjects, use ControlNet for composition, and use plugins to do things you can't easily do with MJ.

tysam_and 3y ago

Midjourney is higher quality by a fair bit, from my personal experience and from being near a few of the top early AI artists for a good little while.

Workaccount2 3y ago
Is midjourneys model actually better? I was under the impression that midjourney was just running a form of SD and it's real secret sauce are the peripheral prompts it injects on the backend along with your prompts. I could be totally off the mark here.
- jaxboxer 3y ago
  To me it is like saying oil is better than acrylics. These statements have no meaning when it comes to art.
- famouswaffles 3y ago
  The model is obviously massively better. and they haven't been using SD in any form since the test mode of v3. the models are trained from scratch.
sixothree 3y ago
Is midjourney still using discord as its primary user interface? That really turned me off.
- chefandy 3y ago
  Yes-- a classmate uses it. They do @everyone announces in their server every day, and while you can mute actual notifications, it still adds one to your badge count. My attention is too valuable-- that would get me to cancel my subscription.
  - sixothree 3y ago
    When I used it, it didn't feel like a product. It felt like a demo. If I have to rely on some bot in a public forum, I'm not sure I like this product.

mdorazio 3y ago

> Midjourney is easier, its not better. By what measure? Midjourney v5 is massively better with every prompt topic I've thrown at it than SD. It's not even close. SD, however, is much better if you want an actual customizable toolchain or to do things like train it on your own face/character.

ZephyrBlu 3y ago
They also just released v5.1, which seems to be quite a bit better than v5.
- cubefox 3y ago
  Is there a comparison? It is interesting that there do not seem to be any Midjourney benchmarks. E.g. https://paperswithcode.com/sota/text-to-image-generation-on-coco?tag_filter=188 https://paperswithcode.com/sota/text-to-image-generation-on-... Parti and Imagen are still on top, followed by Dall-E 2. If their model is so great, why are they afraid of benchmarks?
  - gallabytes 3y ago
    I literally just don't feel like running them tbh, and see no reason to publish them either way. Mostly prefer to let the outputs speak for themselves. For a while I was using an FID variant for evaluation during training, but didn't find it very helpful vs just looking at output images.
    - cubefox 3y ago
      Okay. That's probably the difference between a commercial and a research project.
fumar 3y ago
Agreed. I pay for MJ and have several SD versions running on my PC. I like the ability to fine tune the SD models and my Pc with a 4090 is plenty fast, but I can't match MJ's output on artistic quality. SD allows for 4k sized outputs which is great but I can't use the art like I would like. FWIW the SD NSFW community is large but that is not where I invest my time with AI art.

BoorishBears 3y ago

I have SD up on a machine with a 3090 and it can't produce output half as good as MJ without a ton of work. I use SD to augment MJ, like fixing hands with specific LORAs for example, so I definitely appreciate that it exists. But for actually creating a full image in one shot, they're not even comparable.

chefandy 3y ago

That seems to depend on your use case. Frankly, I don't have much use for either of them but Midjourney was much closer. I've twice spent a couple of hours unsuccessfully trying to generate a simple background image that would be blurred out when rendering 3D models. SD out-of-the-box was far worse, but Midjourney still was not up to the task. It's incredible how well they can generate images of nearly any subject/object and make some changes to the style and placement, but trying to precisely achieve critical broad-stroke things like like perspective, sizing, lighting direction/amount/temperature, etc. was far too cumbersome. Prompt refining is just like having a program with a bunch of nebulous undocumented menu entries that you just have to click on to see what they do rather than just giving you the tools to make what you need to make. Was that the right entry or the wrong entry? Who knows! Maybe just try it again to see if it works better! There's a fundamental disconnect between professional-level and consumer-level tools. Consumer tools must be approachable, easy to use, quickly yield appealing results, affordable, and require little maintenance. Professional tools need to be precise, reliable, capable of repeated results with the most demanding tasks, and easily serviceable into perfect working order. These are consumer-level tools. If you merely need a cool picture of a space ship done in such and such style with such and such guns blah blah blah (that for some reason always looks 10%-50% Thomas Kinkaid,) these tools are great, but they abstract away the controls that really matter in professional work. Novices who get overwhelmed by all of those factors love it because they don't understand, and probably don't care about what they're giving up. For serious work, aside from getting inspo images or maybe generating deliberately weird bits of whatever, they're hit-or-miss at best. Without exception, doing a rough mock-up in a modelling program took FAR less time than trying to wrangle exactly what I needed from one of those generators. I'm sure they'll get there someday but right now they're miles away from being professional-quality image generation tools.

chefandy 3y ago
I will say though that low-effort higher-volume professionals (e.g. mobile game mills, Fiverrrr designers) will likely profit from these tools once they can out-compete cheap online assets from stock images/models/etc. but they're so not there yet.
jstarfish 3y ago

contravert 3y ago

I just want to add my $0.02 currently working at a games studio that is integrating AI generated art into our art pipelines. Midjourney definitely generates really high quality art based on simple prompts, but the inability to really customize the output basically kills its utility. We heavily use Stable Diffusion with specific models and ControlNet to get customizable and consistent results. Our artists also need to extensively tweak and post-process the output, and re-run it again in Stable Diffusion. This entire workflow is definitely beyond a Discord-based interface to say the least.

tomng 3y ago
Really curious about the challenges you've been seeing as your art team's been trying to integrate AI generated art into your pipeline. Excited by the potential for artists to accelerate their creative process with advances like ControlNet, but makes sense there's a lot frustrating about the process today. Exploring tools that might help. If you might be interested in chatting, email me at tom@adobe.com. Thanks!
jononor 3y ago
If you would give a talk about this, I would watch it - despite being out of the graphics for almost 10 years now. Really want to hear from the trenches about the workflows, benefits and challenges you have.
- pjgalbraith 3y ago
  Here is a test I did the other day of rough sketch (hand drawn) -> clean line work (AI) -> coloured (AI). This workflow gives 100% control over the output because you can easily adjust the linework in the intermediary step. https://twitter.com/P_Galbraith/status/1649317290926825473?cxt=HHwWgoDT-c3VxuMtAAAA https://twitter.com/P_Galbraith/status/1649317290926825473?c... This is using Stable Diffusion and the Control Net Lineart Model. The coloured version is pretty rough but it was a quick test. In my opinion Stable Diffusion is vastly superior to Midjourney if you have the skill to provide input to img2img/ControlNet. I have some other earlier workflow experiments on Youtube if you're interested in this kind of thing https://www.youtube.com/pjgalbraith https://www.youtube.com/pjgalbraith

yieldcrv 3y ago

Midjourney retrains itself, I have one click installer apps for SD, Midjourney and the live prompt community is very good None of this stuff is copyrightable so I dont care that its not private

coffeebeqn 3y ago

Midjourney is more niche. It’s great at photographs, digital art, concept art, game art and everything in that sphere. Because that’s what it was trained on. So it has a specific style. Dall-E in comparison produces kind of garbage looking pictures of many more styles