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This isn't news. The link between schizophrenia and cannabis use was known in mental health world before it was ever made illegal. The legalization crowd wouldn

This isn't news. The link between schizophrenia and cannabis use was known in mental health world before it was ever made illegal. The legalization crowd wouldn't promote that. The news is the problem is increasing and a 3 in 10 chance of males becoming schizophrenic is a reason to avoid it. Now I wonder what the correlation of cannabis use to active shooter incidents is?

mark_mc 3y ago
The “3 in 10” in the article refers to the rate of developing cannabis use disorder, not schizophrenia.
blacksmith_tb 3y ago
Betting that was supposed to read "made legal" but the point is clear, the link is very well known both to the medical world and culturally at large. The question of mass shootings and cannabis is interesting, it doesn't seem as likely that someone, even experiencing serious paranoid schizophrenia would go out into the world shooting (instead of barricading themselves), but then I haven't seen statistics for the use of amphetamines or opioids or alcohol by shooters either.
- SparkyMcUnicorn 3y ago
  I'm guessing that this statistic wouldn't be very helpful or interesting. Even if the number is 100%, they all drink water and eat food too. A more interesting statistic would be rate of 1st-3rd degree murders committed on different drugs, and/or what percentage of cannabis users commit violent crimes in general.
  - blacksmith_tb 3y ago
    Sure, correlation is not causation at all, though notably 99.999% of water drinking food eaters don't commit mass murder. My knee-jerk assumption is that stoners are not as likely to rush around committing violent crimes as drunks or people on meth, but maybe that's over-optimistic.
morkalork 3y ago
>what the correlation of cannabis use to active shooter incidents is? Holy reefer madness! I'd bet it's probably a lot lower than the correlation between alcohol and drunk fights, murders and spousal abuse. Yet society seems to be perfectly willing to tolerate it.
sosodev 3y ago
> Now I wonder what the correlation of cannabis use to active shooter incidents is? Uh, is it even reasonable to try and find these correlations? We could probably say that the vast majority of mass shootings were conducted by somebody who had previously used ibuprofen or drank alcohol. Is that meaningful or even useful information?

mark_mc 3y ago

The “3 in 10” in the article refers to the rate of developing cannabis use disorder, not schizophrenia.

blacksmith_tb 3y ago

Betting that was supposed to read "made legal" but the point is clear, the link is very well known both to the medical world and culturally at large. The question of mass shootings and cannabis is interesting, it doesn't seem as likely that someone, even experiencing serious paranoid schizophrenia would go out into the world shooting (instead of barricading themselves), but then I haven't seen statistics for the use of amphetamines or opioids or alcohol by shooters either.

SparkyMcUnicorn 3y ago
I'm guessing that this statistic wouldn't be very helpful or interesting. Even if the number is 100%, they all drink water and eat food too. A more interesting statistic would be rate of 1st-3rd degree murders committed on different drugs, and/or what percentage of cannabis users commit violent crimes in general.
- blacksmith_tb 3y ago
  Sure, correlation is not causation at all, though notably 99.999% of water drinking food eaters don't commit mass murder. My knee-jerk assumption is that stoners are not as likely to rush around committing violent crimes as drunks or people on meth, but maybe that's over-optimistic.

morkalork 3y ago

>what the correlation of cannabis use to active shooter incidents is? Holy reefer madness! I'd bet it's probably a lot lower than the correlation between alcohol and drunk fights, murders and spousal abuse. Yet society seems to be perfectly willing to tolerate it.

sosodev 3y ago

> Now I wonder what the correlation of cannabis use to active shooter incidents is? Uh, is it even reasonable to try and find these correlations? We could probably say that the vast majority of mass shootings were conducted by somebody who had previously used ibuprofen or drank alcohol. Is that meaningful or even useful information?