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so true. At this moment everyone's like, well! This is UNACCEPTABLE. We'll just, we'll just... what, what are you going to do better than github?

no_wizard 4y ago
I always wondered if some % of GitHub orgs move to Gitlab when this happens. I'd be interested to see if there is any correlation there.
- slg 4y ago
  Yeah, because Gitlab would never go down. https://hn.algolia.com/?q=gitlab+down https://hn.algolia.com/?q=gitlab+down
  - dmonitor 4y ago
    Gitlab can be self hosted
    - dmattia 4y ago
      as can Github: https://docs.github.com/en/enterprise-server@3.5/admin/overview/about-github-enterprise-server https://docs.github.com/en/enterprise-server@3.5/admin/overv...
    - slg 4y ago
      And we all know self-hosted software never goes down. Although I guess the benefit is that the CTO gets a psychological lift of looking over Jeremy from IT's shoulder when he tries to fix the issue rather than being at the mercy of some engineers which the company can't fire.
      - Alupis 3y ago
        People like to make it sound like running your own server/service is impossible - completely forgetting that's how everything was done not that long ago. Some wiz-bang new graduates calling themselves Engineers probably haven't a clue - sure, but for everyone else, you probably still have folks employed that did just that on a professional level. It's not hard - and often it's less expensive. Particularly for a turn-key paid product like Github Enterprise or GitLab.
      - apple4ever 3y ago
        > And we all know self-hosted software never goes down. I've been running self-hosted software, and GitLab in particularly, for over a decade at various jobs. It almost never goes down. It fact, its up way way way more often that GitHub!
gnarbarian 4y ago
there's always gitlab
robopsychology 4y ago
We self-host Gitlab and haven't had an unplanned outage in a year since I joined.
choeger 4y ago
>what are you going to do better than github? Not add new features every week? Seriously, you cannot tell me that you cannot run a minimal version of a git repo service much more stable than that. I blame the need for new shiny stuff.
- joshmanders 4y ago
  > I blame the need for new shiny stuff. Ya'll make me laugh. Don't add any features and "This thing is dead, nothing new in years, find an alternative" But a company actively adds new features their customers are asking for and you're upset that they're adding new features. Pick a lane.
  - doodlesdev 3y ago
    Curiosity: Not everyone in Hacker News has the same opinions.
    - joshmanders 3y ago
      Yet in every thread on HN when a service has an outage, the same opinion is spewed. I know the comments of these posts before I even open them. HN is an echo chamber of predictability.
      - capableweb 3y ago
        That you keep opening the discussion page and even participate might say more about you than HN :)
  - lowercased 3y ago
    There's a middle ground between "nothing new in years" and "new feature or changes every week".

no_wizard 4y ago

I always wondered if some % of GitHub orgs move to Gitlab when this happens. I'd be interested to see if there is any correlation there.

slg 4y ago
Yeah, because Gitlab would never go down. https://hn.algolia.com/?q=gitlab+down https://hn.algolia.com/?q=gitlab+down
- dmonitor 4y ago
  Gitlab can be self hosted
  - dmattia 4y ago
    as can Github: https://docs.github.com/en/enterprise-server@3.5/admin/overview/about-github-enterprise-server https://docs.github.com/en/enterprise-server@3.5/admin/overv...
  - slg 4y ago
    And we all know self-hosted software never goes down. Although I guess the benefit is that the CTO gets a psychological lift of looking over Jeremy from IT's shoulder when he tries to fix the issue rather than being at the mercy of some engineers which the company can't fire.
    - Alupis 3y ago
      People like to make it sound like running your own server/service is impossible - completely forgetting that's how everything was done not that long ago. Some wiz-bang new graduates calling themselves Engineers probably haven't a clue - sure, but for everyone else, you probably still have folks employed that did just that on a professional level. It's not hard - and often it's less expensive. Particularly for a turn-key paid product like Github Enterprise or GitLab.
    - apple4ever 3y ago
      > And we all know self-hosted software never goes down. I've been running self-hosted software, and GitLab in particularly, for over a decade at various jobs. It almost never goes down. It fact, its up way way way more often that GitHub!

gnarbarian 4y ago

there's always gitlab

robopsychology 4y ago

We self-host Gitlab and haven't had an unplanned outage in a year since I joined.

choeger 4y ago

>what are you going to do better than github? Not add new features every week? Seriously, you cannot tell me that you cannot run a minimal version of a git repo service much more stable than that. I blame the need for new shiny stuff.

joshmanders 4y ago
> I blame the need for new shiny stuff. Ya'll make me laugh. Don't add any features and "This thing is dead, nothing new in years, find an alternative" But a company actively adds new features their customers are asking for and you're upset that they're adding new features. Pick a lane.
- doodlesdev 3y ago
  Curiosity: Not everyone in Hacker News has the same opinions.
  - joshmanders 3y ago
    Yet in every thread on HN when a service has an outage, the same opinion is spewed. I know the comments of these posts before I even open them. HN is an echo chamber of predictability.
    - capableweb 3y ago
      That you keep opening the discussion page and even participate might say more about you than HN :)
- lowercased 3y ago
  There's a middle ground between "nothing new in years" and "new feature or changes every week".