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> The "you will own nothing" advocates will continue to keep pushing for stuff like this. Who are these "advocates"?

kornhole 4y ago
It is being pushed hard from Wall Street. ARR (Annual Recurring Revenue) is the metric they want to see rising more than increases in income.
incone123 4y ago
Mercedes, in this particular case.
fwungy 4y ago
The original phrase was coined by the World Economic Forum. What the critics leave out is that the WEF was saying that people would be happier not owning anything. >You will own nothing and you will be happy. Alternatively it could have a darker interpretation: you will be a slave and you will be happy, because that's all you're going to get. I suppose it depends if you look at the WEF as a benevolent institution looking to benefit humanity or very rich people looking to solidify their own position at any cost.
- Toutouxc 4y ago
  More info about the origin of the phrase: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/You%27ll_own_nothing_and_be_happy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/You%27ll_own_nothing_and_be_...
- boston_clone 4y ago
  Easily fact-checked: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-wef-idUSKBN2AP2T0 https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-wef-idUSKBN2AP2...
  - userbinator 4y ago
    The link to the original article is now 404 from the WEF's site, but you can find it in archive.org. It's notable that the link has "agenda" in its URL.
  - vorpalhex 4y ago
    This isn't a related fact check. It seems like it is, but read it closely. Reuters here is not debunking the phrase was said by a WEF politician, they are debunking that is is a goal of Agenda 30. Nobody made that claim in the first place.
    - boston_clone 4y ago
      I'm correcting mischaracterizations made by the parent comment. The article I linked provides context and paints a different picture; not sure why you consider that to be unrelated.
      - vorpalhex 4y ago
        Your article agrees with the claim the parent made - the WEF said "You will own nothing and be happy".
  - mantas 4y ago
    Yet another „fact-checking“ that can be easily fact-checked to be a lie.
- anon291 4y ago
  > What the critics leave out is that the WEF was saying that people would be happier not owning anything. Given that happiness is often a cultural construct (wildly different things make people happy dependent on the cultural context), and that many WEF members are cultural influencers the critics response is that the current people will not really be happy, but the WEF will arrange the culture so that future people are. Any outside group conspiring to change your culture is a normal cause for alarm.
- piaste 4y ago
  > What the critics leave out is that the WEF was saying that people would be happier not owning anything. Literally every time I have seen the quote brought up in dissenters' milieus, it included the "and you will be happy" part. Unsurprisingly, because the implicit paternalism makes it almost as repellent as the first part.
s3p 4y ago
Mercedes and their shareholders.

It is being pushed hard from Wall Street. ARR (Annual Recurring Revenue) is the metric they want to see rising more than increases in income.

incone123 4y ago

Mercedes, in this particular case.

fwungy 4y ago

The original phrase was coined by the World Economic Forum. What the critics leave out is that the WEF was saying that people would be happier not owning anything. >You will own nothing and you will be happy. Alternatively it could have a darker interpretation: you will be a slave and you will be happy, because that's all you're going to get. I suppose it depends if you look at the WEF as a benevolent institution looking to benefit humanity or very rich people looking to solidify their own position at any cost.

Toutouxc 4y ago
More info about the origin of the phrase: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/You%27ll_own_nothing_and_be_happy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/You%27ll_own_nothing_and_be_...
boston_clone 4y ago
Easily fact-checked: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-wef-idUSKBN2AP2T0 https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-wef-idUSKBN2AP2...
- userbinator 4y ago
  The link to the original article is now 404 from the WEF's site, but you can find it in archive.org. It's notable that the link has "agenda" in its URL.
- vorpalhex 4y ago
  This isn't a related fact check. It seems like it is, but read it closely. Reuters here is not debunking the phrase was said by a WEF politician, they are debunking that is is a goal of Agenda 30. Nobody made that claim in the first place.
  - boston_clone 4y ago
    I'm correcting mischaracterizations made by the parent comment. The article I linked provides context and paints a different picture; not sure why you consider that to be unrelated.
    - vorpalhex 4y ago
      Your article agrees with the claim the parent made - the WEF said "You will own nothing and be happy".
- mantas 4y ago
  Yet another „fact-checking“ that can be easily fact-checked to be a lie.
anon291 4y ago
> What the critics leave out is that the WEF was saying that people would be happier not owning anything. Given that happiness is often a cultural construct (wildly different things make people happy dependent on the cultural context), and that many WEF members are cultural influencers the critics response is that the current people will not really be happy, but the WEF will arrange the culture so that future people are. Any outside group conspiring to change your culture is a normal cause for alarm.
piaste 4y ago
> What the critics leave out is that the WEF was saying that people would be happier not owning anything. Literally every time I have seen the quote brought up in dissenters' milieus, it included the "and you will be happy" part. Unsurprisingly, because the implicit paternalism makes it almost as repellent as the first part.

s3p 4y ago

Mercedes and their shareholders.