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@OP, what are your thoughts on Dubai bulbs/“ultra efficient” led bulbs? I was annoyed to learn that modern led bulbs are overclocked by design so that they fail

@OP, what are your thoughts on Dubai bulbs/“ultra efficient” led bulbs? I was annoyed to learn that modern led bulbs are overclocked by design so that they fail quickly, and have been seeking a solution ever since the Dubai bulbs made it to the front page here.

yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
Couldn't you avoid that with these Hues just by running it dimmer than 100%?
- xyzzy_plugh 3y ago
  The Hue bulbs are on the dimmer side compared to a traditional bulb (LED or otherwise) so this would defeat the purpose for my use cases. The color bulbs in particular are horribly dim, but fun nonetheless. The only failure I've encountered in ~10 years is my original Hub started crash looping a few years ago and I ended up getting a new starter kit to replace it. The bulbs seem to really last, however.
  - balfirevic 3y ago
    > The Hue bulbs are on the dimmer side compared to a traditional bulb What do you mean, do they not produce the advertised number of lumens? Just looking at specs, their highest output coloured bulb produces 1521 lumens at 4000K white colour temperature and 1055 lumens at 2700K [0]. That's very close to the brightest regular bulb I can find in stores (1600 lm). [0] - https://www.philips-hue.com/en-gb/p/hue-white-and-colour-ambiance-a67---e27-smart-bulb---1600/8719514288157 https://www.philips-hue.com/en-gb/p/hue-white-and-colour-amb...
    - xyzzy_plugh 3y ago
      It looks like there are newer bulbs which are substantially better. Mine do 800 lumens @ 4000K which is fairly atrocious, even if I ran them at 4000K, which I would never do as it's horrible. I suppose I have to consider replacing everything now...
stetrain 3y ago
For what it’s worth I’ve been using Hue bulbs for about 10 years and have yet to see a single failure.
- peterleiser 3y ago
  Exactly. Phillips is the only smart bulb brand (in my personal experience) that lives up to the lifetime claims on the box. Not a single outage in 7+ years.
- GeneralAntilles 3y ago
  Counterpoint: I've been using Hue bulbs for over 10 years, currently have around 120 lights operating and have had maybe a 5% failure rate (mostly 2nd and 3rd generation A19 bulbs). Flicker due to PSU failure, some completely dead bulbs, some which have lost specific colors in the array (maybe FET failure) so they turn weird colors (like green or purple) at certain white temperature settings. I suspect the cause is mostly heat-related. As newer bulbs run much cooler I expect reliability will be better, but the product line is definitely not bullet-proof.

yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago

Couldn't you avoid that with these Hues just by running it dimmer than 100%?

xyzzy_plugh 3y ago
The Hue bulbs are on the dimmer side compared to a traditional bulb (LED or otherwise) so this would defeat the purpose for my use cases. The color bulbs in particular are horribly dim, but fun nonetheless. The only failure I've encountered in ~10 years is my original Hub started crash looping a few years ago and I ended up getting a new starter kit to replace it. The bulbs seem to really last, however.
- balfirevic 3y ago
  > The Hue bulbs are on the dimmer side compared to a traditional bulb What do you mean, do they not produce the advertised number of lumens? Just looking at specs, their highest output coloured bulb produces 1521 lumens at 4000K white colour temperature and 1055 lumens at 2700K [0]. That's very close to the brightest regular bulb I can find in stores (1600 lm). [0] - https://www.philips-hue.com/en-gb/p/hue-white-and-colour-ambiance-a67---e27-smart-bulb---1600/8719514288157 https://www.philips-hue.com/en-gb/p/hue-white-and-colour-amb...
  - xyzzy_plugh 3y ago
    It looks like there are newer bulbs which are substantially better. Mine do 800 lumens @ 4000K which is fairly atrocious, even if I ran them at 4000K, which I would never do as it's horrible. I suppose I have to consider replacing everything now...

stetrain 3y ago

For what it’s worth I’ve been using Hue bulbs for about 10 years and have yet to see a single failure.

peterleiser 3y ago
Exactly. Phillips is the only smart bulb brand (in my personal experience) that lives up to the lifetime claims on the box. Not a single outage in 7+ years.
GeneralAntilles 3y ago
Counterpoint: I've been using Hue bulbs for over 10 years, currently have around 120 lights operating and have had maybe a 5% failure rate (mostly 2nd and 3rd generation A19 bulbs). Flicker due to PSU failure, some completely dead bulbs, some which have lost specific colors in the array (maybe FET failure) so they turn weird colors (like green or purple) at certain white temperature settings. I suspect the cause is mostly heat-related. As newer bulbs run much cooler I expect reliability will be better, but the product line is definitely not bullet-proof.