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Where are these state of the art facial recognition systems deployed? Because as someone with dark skin and a Nest doorbell with facial recognition, I can tell
by nerdix 3y ago
Where are these state of the art facial recognition systems deployed? Because as someone with dark skin and a Nest doorbell with facial recognition, I can tell you from experience that Nest still struggles with dark skin.
And if Nest is not deploying state of the art facial recognition then what are the odds that some random landlord is? I'm going to say close to none.
- harvey9 3y agoAre there any light-skinned people set up on your doorbell for comparison? Would help to eliminate other possibilities like low light, or the algorithm being generally bad.
- nerdix 3y agoYes, in fact. I have people in my extended family who are fair skinned (i.e. white) and have visited my home. The Nest was almost immediately able to accurately identity them even in sub-optimal lighting conditions. Even though it struggles to identity me except in the most optimal lighting conditions. Despite the fact that it "sees" me a lot more. It was one of the first things I noticed when I got the doorbell. The difference was stark and obvious.
- fwlr 3y agoNo, I do agree that Nest’s face rec (and face detection too, for that matter) is pretty awful. I don’t have first-hand knowledge of what Google is actually deploying but I suspect they’re performing so poorly because they’re training the recognition on just the home’s dataset; it is sort of like each home training it’s own LLM just on text written by that home’s inhabitants, while GPT4 gets unlimited resources to train on hundreds of gigabytes of text from all over the web. But it is still a bit of a mystery why Google is allowing Nest’s facial recognition to remain so weak. Actually, if Nest is representative of what most consumers experience when interacting with facial recognition, then I understand why there’s this common perception that facial recognition is buggy and unreliable. I’m drawing on my experience working on commercial models.
- idontpost 3y ago[dead]
- mixmastamyk 3y agoYes, and "digital cameras will never compete with film," ammirite? I heard this a lot twenty years ago, and even a little ten years ago.