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I'm just curious -- what specific privacy intrusions are you worried about? Google lists its privacy policy here[1]. Also, web based email services can always l

I'm just curious -- what specific privacy intrusions are you worried about? Google lists its privacy policy here[1]. Also, web based email services can always look at your personal content, if not today, tomorrow. If you really need absolute privacy, I'd recommend setting up your server. You can retain your Gmail address, by just setting up the right forwarding options. [1]: http://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/privacy/ http://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/privacy/

fauigerzigerk 15y ago
In their new privacy policy they say this: "We use the information we collect from all of our services to provide, maintain, protect and improve them, to develop new ones, and to protect Google and our users". Develop new services sounds pretty open ended to me.
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bmichel 15y ago
Maybe it's just me, but I'm scared by this sentence from the Google ToS: "When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content." -- http://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/terms/ http://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/terms/
- zalew 15y ago
  Last time people spread panic about this exact same phrasing was when Dropbox updated it's terms, it's needed to provide their services.
- thehodge 15y ago
  Thats pretty standard with most web services.
- bjdixon 15y ago
  Taken in isolation this could sound scary, but as zalew says here[1] it's needed for them to operate. Seriously, think about what would happen if google suddenly started publishing your (private) content. They'd lose all trust from the wider population. For them to publish or publicly display your content in a way that would violate your privacy would be an absolutely stupid move. Google hasn't gotten to where they are now by being absolutely stupid. [1]http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3582421 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3582421

fauigerzigerk 15y ago

In their new privacy policy they say this: "We use the information we collect from all of our services to provide, maintain, protect and improve them, to develop new ones, and to protect Google and our users". Develop new services sounds pretty open ended to me.

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bmichel 15y ago

Maybe it's just me, but I'm scared by this sentence from the Google ToS: "When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content." -- http://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/terms/ http://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/terms/

zalew 15y ago
Last time people spread panic about this exact same phrasing was when Dropbox updated it's terms, it's needed to provide their services.
thehodge 15y ago
Thats pretty standard with most web services.
bjdixon 15y ago
Taken in isolation this could sound scary, but as zalew says here[1] it's needed for them to operate. Seriously, think about what would happen if google suddenly started publishing your (private) content. They'd lose all trust from the wider population. For them to publish or publicly display your content in a way that would violate your privacy would be an absolutely stupid move. Google hasn't gotten to where they are now by being absolutely stupid. [1]http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3582421 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3582421