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I once thought 2023 was Peak California. I've since been convinced that California hasn't even _begun_ to California; every policy and every ideological molehil

I once thought 2023 was Peak California. I've since been convinced that California hasn't even _begun_ to California; every policy and every ideological molehill that California's been built upon will continue to compound as those who feel otherwise leave the state. From my understanding, California leadership at all levels of government has had only one lever the past couple decades, and that lever can only be pushed one direction. It's going to get a lot more California before it gets more normal, buckle up :)

gibsonf1 3y ago
At all governmental levels, California is fully mis-managed partly because management no longer has to do with outcomes beneficial to residents of California. And the question is as more reasonable people who expect reasonable management of the state leave (I plan to be one), how will the state ever turn around when voters continue to vote for management that does not manage in their best interests?
colpabar 3y ago
It'll be interesting to see if any of the reparations stuff ends up happening.
- gibsonf1 3y ago
  It's effectively impossible as there is no money to pay for it and CA can't print money. But for sure, if it does, the exodus will likely increase. That management thinks that you can spend dramatically more than you have when you are already broke is quite remarkable.
0xbadc0de5 3y ago
A lot of this is uncannily familiar to anyone who's read Atlas Shrugged.
r00fus 3y ago
Where are they moving to? Because CoL isn't everything. Quality of life is a real issue. Move to TX and you get an even worse run public utilities and anti-woke politicians run amok. Worse with FL. The problem is not endemic to CA. It's literally everywhere because everyone who can afford it has decided to seek rent instead of profits.
dragonwriter 3y ago
> From my understanding, California leadership at all levels of government has had only one lever the past couple decades, and that lever can only be pushed one direction. Your understanding is wrong, and there’s probably no place that this is more obvious than housing.

gibsonf1 3y ago

At all governmental levels, California is fully mis-managed partly because management no longer has to do with outcomes beneficial to residents of California. And the question is as more reasonable people who expect reasonable management of the state leave (I plan to be one), how will the state ever turn around when voters continue to vote for management that does not manage in their best interests?

colpabar 3y ago

It'll be interesting to see if any of the reparations stuff ends up happening.

gibsonf1 3y ago
It's effectively impossible as there is no money to pay for it and CA can't print money. But for sure, if it does, the exodus will likely increase. That management thinks that you can spend dramatically more than you have when you are already broke is quite remarkable.

0xbadc0de5 3y ago

A lot of this is uncannily familiar to anyone who's read Atlas Shrugged.

r00fus 3y ago

Where are they moving to? Because CoL isn't everything. Quality of life is a real issue. Move to TX and you get an even worse run public utilities and anti-woke politicians run amok. Worse with FL. The problem is not endemic to CA. It's literally everywhere because everyone who can afford it has decided to seek rent instead of profits.

dragonwriter 3y ago

> From my understanding, California leadership at all levels of government has had only one lever the past couple decades, and that lever can only be pushed one direction. Your understanding is wrong, and there’s probably no place that this is more obvious than housing.