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Isn’t the suggestion that the “active work” is very little and most of the time you’re just waiting?
by emodendroket 4y ago
Isn’t the suggestion that the “active work” is very little and most of the time you’re just waiting?
- Ensorceled 4y agoWell, the elapsed time is how long I need production to be offline so there are a few more people "just waiting"
- emodendroket 4y agoSure, but you don’t really expect to swap databases with a huge data store without any downtime, do you? I’m not aware of any technology that makes that easy.
- Ensorceled 4y agoThen why are you defending the ridiculous "2 minute" thing? If the CEO asked how long a migration will take would you respond "2 minutes of engineering time"?
- emodendroket 4y agoIn that situation I would guess the one-click tool doesn’t really handle everything you’d need either so I don’t get what the point of the comparison is.
- Ensorceled 4y agoI’m not the person would said it was two minutes.
- emodendroket 4y agoNor am I but if we go back up the claim was that they were making it much easier to get in than get out, but unless you're telling me that the one-click tool somehow solves all the issues of migrating a large production database that's in use the difference between the two is a minuscule amount of active work.
- kerkeslager 4y agoIf you were the CEO and your engineer and someone said, "2 minutes of actual work and a lot of waiting around due to the limitations of the hardware", would you interpret that as "2 minutes of engineering time"? Obviously I'm going to spend a lot more time communicating the details of the situation to the CEO of a company that is paying me, than I'm going to spend communicating in a Hacker News comment. But as it turns out, no amount of communication is going to be effective if people don't bother to read past the first opportunity they see to jump in with a correction, even if that means stopping reading mid-sentence.
- squeaky-clean 4y agoWhy would you take production offline to swap databases? Elapsed time is how long you need to run the new database alongside the old one.
- Ensorceled 4y agoThis whole thread is about incompatible databases. If you know a 2 minute solution to a live transfer in that situation I’m all ears.