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By not censoring state media accounts that proves he's not a free speech absolutist?

throwaway290 3y ago
Your comment is a straw man. They were labeled as state media but not censored, anyone could follow and read them. The difference is that now their tweets are actively fed to people. Also, nah, free speech absolutism starts with removing algorithmic feed and stopping profiting from ads. By not having the guts to do that Musk already proved himself not a free speech absolutist. This incident is just icing on the cake. But still I have to ask, those countries that themselves do not have free speech and do not allow their own citizens to read Twitter but spend big bucks on information war against the west? You see amplifying their content and giving it the same weight as regular personal accounts as free speech absolutism? Imagine you removed all rules on people behavior and make it free for all, except some people have bare hands and a knife while others have tanks and rocket launchers. Ask yourself, is it absolute freedom? Freedom for whom exactly?..
- stainablesteel 3y ago
  you claiming that government accounts are amplified is a strawman > free speech absolutism starts with removing algorithmic feed and stopping profiting from ads if you can't make money off it, the platform will cease to exist. its cherry picking to say that something isn't perfect because of this when its the same as everything else on the internet.
  - throwaway290 3y ago
    > if you can't make money off it, the platform will cease to exist charge for it, if it's good people will pay > you claiming that government accounts are amplified is a strawman no, read the article, it is about that > Platform Use Guidelines on state-affiliated accounts stated, “In the case of state-affiliated media entities, Twitter will not recommend or amplify accounts or their Tweets with these labels to people.” By 23:39 GMT that evening, however, Twitter had removed this sentence from its platform policy and then they removed those labels altogether
- reportgunner 3y ago
  > some people have bare hands and a knife while others have tanks and rocket launchers The opposite can be seen in Kurt Vonnegut's 2081

Your comment is a straw man. They were labeled as state media but not censored, anyone could follow and read them. The difference is that now their tweets are actively fed to people. Also, nah, free speech absolutism starts with removing algorithmic feed and stopping profiting from ads. By not having the guts to do that Musk already proved himself not a free speech absolutist. This incident is just icing on the cake. But still I have to ask, those countries that themselves do not have free speech and do not allow their own citizens to read Twitter but spend big bucks on information war against the west? You see amplifying their content and giving it the same weight as regular personal accounts as free speech absolutism? Imagine you removed all rules on people behavior and make it free for all, except some people have bare hands and a knife while others have tanks and rocket launchers. Ask yourself, is it absolute freedom? Freedom for whom exactly?..

stainablesteel 3y ago
you claiming that government accounts are amplified is a strawman > free speech absolutism starts with removing algorithmic feed and stopping profiting from ads if you can't make money off it, the platform will cease to exist. its cherry picking to say that something isn't perfect because of this when its the same as everything else on the internet.
- throwaway290 3y ago
  > if you can't make money off it, the platform will cease to exist charge for it, if it's good people will pay > you claiming that government accounts are amplified is a strawman no, read the article, it is about that > Platform Use Guidelines on state-affiliated accounts stated, “In the case of state-affiliated media entities, Twitter will not recommend or amplify accounts or their Tweets with these labels to people.” By 23:39 GMT that evening, however, Twitter had removed this sentence from its platform policy and then they removed those labels altogether
reportgunner 3y ago
> some people have bare hands and a knife while others have tanks and rocket launchers The opposite can be seen in Kurt Vonnegut's 2081