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How can a corporation be furious? After reading the article, they don't say anything about the company or people inside the company being furious. The closest t
by criddell 4y ago
How can a corporation be furious? After reading the article, they don't say anything about the company or people inside the company being furious. The closest thing I could find is that a Meta spokesperson said they plan to fight it vigorously and expect to win.
Maybe the headline should be "Meta opposed to proposed FTC ban on monetizing youth data".
- xwdv 4y agoOne way is to train an AI on the entire collection of conversations every employee at Meta has had, and then after sufficient training ask the AI how it feels about this ban. It may then respond that it is furious!!! Thus we can determine the corporation is furious. For some remote first companies that communicate primarily through platforms like Slack or email, this should be trivial to do.
- nh23423fefe 4y agoIf I trained an AI on what you said, it couldn't tell me how you feel. Category error.
- programmer_dude 4y agoI don't think it is. The AI would indeed tell you how the OP would feel if he were given the same news and asked the same question.
- dwringer 4y agoThat strikes me as an extraordinary claim somewhat in need of extraordinary evidence.
- xwdv 4y agoIt does. GPT4 frequently reports the same feelings I do when given similar inputs.
- shever73 4y agoNot a feeling as such, but I suppose it would be able to determine an angry or furious tone: https://i.imgur.com/abRLZYO.png https://i.imgur.com/abRLZYO.png
- CPLX 4y agoThe headline here is the government of the United States has alleged that Meta has violated an existing privacy order severely enough that they should not be allowed to retain data on children at all, that they've lied to parents about what they are doing with their kids data, and that bugs or mistakenly applied product features had enabled kids to message with strangers despite promises that the product was not able to do that. Interestingly enough, that is in fact basically what the first few paragraphs of the article say pretty clearly. How this kind of headline exists in a tech driven publication who knows right.
- anaganisk 4y agoI thought corporations are considered people in US.
- bigbillheck 4y ago> How can a corporation be furious? In the same way that an agency can propose: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synecdoche https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synecdoche
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- toxik 4y agoThis is not a synecdoche, it is at best anthropomorphizing.
- Veen 4y agoIt's a totum pro parte synecdoche.
- abduhl 4y agoProposing is an action. Being furious is a state of emotion. Corporations can act through their agents. Corporations cannot feel their agents’ emotions because they are unable to feel.
- nimajneb 4y agoPR can express emotion via press releases and interviews on behalf of the company. I would say it's just a way to say the board of directors is furious. Not that the company is sentient, and I don't think anyone thinks companies are sentient.
- criddell 4y agoHas PR expressed something to indicate board member fury?
- anjel 4y agoAlso schadenfreude as a means of engagement...
- sailfast 4y agoA rational person could interpret these spokesperson replies as being "furious" (but I agree that the headline is hyperbole) > A Meta spokesperson told Ars that the FTC's proposed changes are "a political stunt," saying that the FTC gave Meta "no opportunity to discuss this new, totally unprecedented theory." Meta considers the FTC's proposed changes to the privacy order "a new low."
- jjulius 4y ago>How can a corporation be furious? After reading the article, they don't say anything about the company or people inside the company being furious. The closest thing I could find is that a Meta spokesperson said they plan to fight it vigorously and expect to win. To be fair, the spokesperson's tone, and the insistence that they'll be fighting, does make them sound pretty pissed off.
- coding123 4y agoSo how about, Facebook spokesperson furious...
- jjulius 4y agoThe spokesperson is the voice of the company, what they say is supposed to represent the opinion of the company as a whole.
- criddell 4y agoI bet the rank and file are not enraged by this and I would guess that the majority probably agree that Meta should not exploit children.
- jjulius 4y agoAnd yet what the spokesperson said remains the official stance of Facebook, whether the rank and file agree or not. C'est la vie.
- bluefirebrand 4y agoWhat the rank and file thinks is basically inconsequential to corporations.
- walls 4y agoAre you trying to say that they are just following orders?
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- gigatexal 4y agoYeah … the headline is sensationalist for sure.
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- garbagecoder 4y agoBecause corporations are people and people are data.