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> GitLab is working with Google Cloud because of its strong commitment to privacy Right. I guess they'll also deal with Qualcomm for their strong commitment to

by jraph 4y ago

> GitLab is working with Google Cloud because of its strong commitment to privacy Right. I guess they'll also deal with Qualcomm for their strong commitment to openness, and Russia for its strong commitment to democracy.

sofixa 4y ago
That's a bit unfair, you shouldn't confuse Google (the b2c services that collect a ton of user data to deliver ads) and Google Cloud Platform. GCP is genuinely quite open. Whereas AWS have the habit of creating proprietary services/making proprietary changes to open source stuff, a lot of what GCP does is based on open source and open standards, done in public, which they themselves push for. Some of their flagship services such as GKE and Cloud Run, their Service Mesh stuff, Cloud Build, etc. run on software open sourced by Google. Of course that's not always the case - BigQuery is fully proprietary, but it's much better than competitor clouds that release the bare minimum publicly to allow consumption, but don't actually make it possible to do the same thing as GCP on your own outside of their environment.
- beebmam 4y ago
  Google is not an open company so it's impossible to conclude that your statements are accurate based on evidence.
- belltaco 4y ago
  Their products for businesses also used to spy on them, so it's hard to build trust again. https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/google-under-fire-for-data-mining-student-email-messages/2014/03 https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/google-under-fire-for...
endisneigh 4y ago
You're implying that GCP somehow does not keep customers' data private. Do you have evidence for this?
- alpaca128 4y ago
  They're implying that the Google brand has such a terrible reputation in terms of privacy that anything touched by it - even if it's just the name - is not trustworthy in many people's eyes. And privacy violations can't be reversed, by the time you have tangible evidence it's too late. At this point Google is mainly known as online tracking company which loves to cancel projects, and they put a lot of effort into building this image to a point an observer can get the impression it's not an accident.
  - endisneigh 4y ago
    literally FUD. do you have anything substantial to show with respect to GCP privacy violations?
    - mixmastamyk 4y ago
      Your skepticism is backwards.
kernal 4y ago
Yeah, because the US is such a beacon to the "democracy".

by jraph 4y ago

sofixa 4y ago

That's a bit unfair, you shouldn't confuse Google (the b2c services that collect a ton of user data to deliver ads) and Google Cloud Platform. GCP is genuinely quite open. Whereas AWS have the habit of creating proprietary services/making proprietary changes to open source stuff, a lot of what GCP does is based on open source and open standards, done in public, which they themselves push for. Some of their flagship services such as GKE and Cloud Run, their Service Mesh stuff, Cloud Build, etc. run on software open sourced by Google. Of course that's not always the case - BigQuery is fully proprietary, but it's much better than competitor clouds that release the bare minimum publicly to allow consumption, but don't actually make it possible to do the same thing as GCP on your own outside of their environment.

beebmam 4y ago
Google is not an open company so it's impossible to conclude that your statements are accurate based on evidence.
belltaco 4y ago
Their products for businesses also used to spy on them, so it's hard to build trust again. https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/google-under-fire-for-data-mining-student-email-messages/2014/03 https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/google-under-fire-for...

endisneigh 4y ago

You're implying that GCP somehow does not keep customers' data private. Do you have evidence for this?

alpaca128 4y ago
They're implying that the Google brand has such a terrible reputation in terms of privacy that anything touched by it - even if it's just the name - is not trustworthy in many people's eyes. And privacy violations can't be reversed, by the time you have tangible evidence it's too late. At this point Google is mainly known as online tracking company which loves to cancel projects, and they put a lot of effort into building this image to a point an observer can get the impression it's not an accident.
- endisneigh 4y ago
  literally FUD. do you have anything substantial to show with respect to GCP privacy violations?
  - mixmastamyk 4y ago
    Your skepticism is backwards.

kernal 4y ago

Yeah, because the US is such a beacon to the "democracy".