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Man I am actually listening the Dune audio books and I have to say I am a bit disappointed. While the overall plot is intriguing and the world building is fasci

Man I am actually listening the Dune audio books and I have to say I am a bit disappointed. While the overall plot is intriguing and the world building is fascinating. The way it panders its world views as correct is akin to Atlas Shrugged Characters just pause and monologue about how certain things are in certain ways with no real distinction between that is how the character feels and that is the only and right way of things. No one who does the monologging is ever proven wrong Like in book 3 often reminds us that the prosperity of Atreides reign brought to Dune only caused a degeneration in society over and over. "Oh we should just be desert nomads who scramble to survive, that makes us strong! Those filthy water-rich city people are weak and corrupt" It feels like every few minutes I have to roll my eyes and just accept badly thought out philosophy as fact

fellowniusmonk 3y ago
I had a very different interpretation of the monologing in the first book. Some time has passed since my last read but I distinctly remember at least Baron Harkonnen having a self important but buffoonish inner monologe and at least one instance of a pov jump to another character who is thinking (paraphrasing) "this guy is a decadent buffon". I think the other characters also have melodramatic and self centered inner thought lives but I thought it implicit that their thought lives are limited and narrow generally, they often don't really represent to the truth of things and it's clear they are often overthinking things instead of communicating clearly and truthfully (like the Thufir's inner thought life is super far off base and he's supposed to be a near super intelligence.) Paul particularly seemed like, all things being equal, a self absorbed teenager. That was just my take though.
- DanielHB 3y ago
  I am talking more specifically about when they inner-talk about philosophy, religion and government

fellowniusmonk 3y ago

I had a very different interpretation of the monologing in the first book. Some time has passed since my last read but I distinctly remember at least Baron Harkonnen having a self important but buffoonish inner monologe and at least one instance of a pov jump to another character who is thinking (paraphrasing) "this guy is a decadent buffon". I think the other characters also have melodramatic and self centered inner thought lives but I thought it implicit that their thought lives are limited and narrow generally, they often don't really represent to the truth of things and it's clear they are often overthinking things instead of communicating clearly and truthfully (like the Thufir's inner thought life is super far off base and he's supposed to be a near super intelligence.) Paul particularly seemed like, all things being equal, a self absorbed teenager. That was just my take though.

DanielHB 3y ago
I am talking more specifically about when they inner-talk about philosophy, religion and government