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I’m not going to count my searches and pay for tiers. Honestly, I could live without caring about search. It feels like another thing that could go by the waysi

I’m not going to count my searches and pay for tiers. Honestly, I could live without caring about search. It feels like another thing that could go by the wayside, like music albums. I have Apple Music because it comes with my family plan, and I have YouTube Music because it comes with YouTube Premium. If I had to pay just for a music service — like Spotify — they wouldn’t get my money. Even if it’s the better music streaming option in my car. But my car also plays Apple Music. The dark pattens and ubiquity of some of these verticals means not having to care too much and still getting most of what I want. I don’t really want to care about search the way some people care about vinyl.

toastal 3y ago
Do I have to be the guy to say that I still listen to music as whole albums and store my music for offline? Artists in a lot of genres still release the album as 'the music', where a song is like one chapter of the book and you wouldn't just read one chapter. I only stream during the discovery phase for new music and even then it's usually: one track good, okay then it's time to try the whole album. There has always been folks that prefer records to radio and it feels absurd to me that this would be going away.
- browningstreet 3y ago
  I think individually we all have the right/option to make our choices, but I'm speaking to the market makers. If you want to be a vinyl shop (Kagi, Bandcamp), go for it. But you're not going to be Spotify -- or the Apple Music Store ($0.99 per track, remember?) -- in a world of TikTok and bundled music platforms. And I have my personal version of vinyl, I listen a lot to soma.fm and Radio Paradise. It's very interesting to me personally how few other services like those really exist out in the world. There are things like DI.FM and Mixcloud, but I don't know anything else like Radio Paradise (music channels, forums, etc). I've scoured all the channels and platforms expose on TuneIn and the like, and there aren't quite as many variants as I would personally expect. So the niche music world isn't even as numerou$ as you'd want a long tail to be.
dcow 3y ago
I pay for Kagi and never once have I needed to count my searches. I think the FUD is largely unfounded once you actually use the product.

toastal 3y ago

Do I have to be the guy to say that I still listen to music as whole albums and store my music for offline? Artists in a lot of genres still release the album as 'the music', where a song is like one chapter of the book and you wouldn't just read one chapter. I only stream during the discovery phase for new music and even then it's usually: one track good, okay then it's time to try the whole album. There has always been folks that prefer records to radio and it feels absurd to me that this would be going away.

browningstreet 3y ago
I think individually we all have the right/option to make our choices, but I'm speaking to the market makers. If you want to be a vinyl shop (Kagi, Bandcamp), go for it. But you're not going to be Spotify -- or the Apple Music Store ($0.99 per track, remember?) -- in a world of TikTok and bundled music platforms. And I have my personal version of vinyl, I listen a lot to soma.fm and Radio Paradise. It's very interesting to me personally how few other services like those really exist out in the world. There are things like DI.FM and Mixcloud, but I don't know anything else like Radio Paradise (music channels, forums, etc). I've scoured all the channels and platforms expose on TuneIn and the like, and there aren't quite as many variants as I would personally expect. So the niche music world isn't even as numerou$ as you'd want a long tail to be.

dcow 3y ago

I pay for Kagi and never once have I needed to count my searches. I think the FUD is largely unfounded once you actually use the product.