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The tipping I don’t understand. This means the store has to track them and and add the money to individuals’ checks? It’s not like they can cash out from the

by uptime 3y ago

The tipping I don’t understand. This means the store has to track them and and add the money to individuals’ checks? It’s not like they can cash out from the till. That is an odd thing to ask for. They don’t work on commission which is one reason I feel ok going to an apple store for a phone. The rest seems normal and I hope they have some success.

filoleg 3y ago
A good number of prominent up-and-coming labor unions in the US seem to have some sort of a weird self-inflicted-harm fetish and an uncanny ability to turn public sentiment against them (even when the public already favors them), which they don't shy away from putting in the spotlight shortly after making any notable progress. They had a solid list of demands, and then just somehow felt the dire need to tack-on this absolutely strange demand for tipping that makes them look like out-of-touch morons that the opposition tends to paint them as (especially given that afaik most people don't like the whole tipping-dependent approach to a lot of things in the US). I saw some people in the comments here calling it a negotiation tactic ("ask for more than what you actually want, so that you can negotiate down to what you want"), but this is a very "questionable" way of using that tactic. If the union wanted a higher-than-actually-needed demand to negotiate down later, they should've just used a higher number for their holiday pay demand. Or literally anything else that wouldn't give the anti-union sentiment such good ammo. Which shouldn't be that difficult to find, if things are indeed as bad as the union claims they are without their presence.
- nocoiner 3y ago
  Honestly, I couldn’t have come up with a worst demand than this. I almost have to think this is an idea that was introduced by a subversive element in the union. Literally ten monkeys on ten typewriters could have produced something more coherent. Just incredibly tone deaf and out of touch, and I say this as someone who’s pretty, pretty pro-labor! You want better comp, so instead of shifting that burden to the richest company in the world, you’re going to … try to directly extract that value from the customers visiting the store at which you work. OK. Going to be hilarious when Apple has a facially neutral reason for closing the unionized store when people stop going to the one store with a markedly worse consumer experience.

by uptime 3y ago

filoleg 3y ago

A good number of prominent up-and-coming labor unions in the US seem to have some sort of a weird self-inflicted-harm fetish and an uncanny ability to turn public sentiment against them (even when the public already favors them), which they don't shy away from putting in the spotlight shortly after making any notable progress. They had a solid list of demands, and then just somehow felt the dire need to tack-on this absolutely strange demand for tipping that makes them look like out-of-touch morons that the opposition tends to paint them as (especially given that afaik most people don't like the whole tipping-dependent approach to a lot of things in the US). I saw some people in the comments here calling it a negotiation tactic ("ask for more than what you actually want, so that you can negotiate down to what you want"), but this is a very "questionable" way of using that tactic. If the union wanted a higher-than-actually-needed demand to negotiate down later, they should've just used a higher number for their holiday pay demand. Or literally anything else that wouldn't give the anti-union sentiment such good ammo. Which shouldn't be that difficult to find, if things are indeed as bad as the union claims they are without their presence.

nocoiner 3y ago
Honestly, I couldn’t have come up with a worst demand than this. I almost have to think this is an idea that was introduced by a subversive element in the union. Literally ten monkeys on ten typewriters could have produced something more coherent. Just incredibly tone deaf and out of touch, and I say this as someone who’s pretty, pretty pro-labor! You want better comp, so instead of shifting that burden to the richest company in the world, you’re going to … try to directly extract that value from the customers visiting the store at which you work. OK. Going to be hilarious when Apple has a facially neutral reason for closing the unionized store when people stop going to the one store with a markedly worse consumer experience.