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If you can’t use it in town or on curvy roads, how is it better than my base model Forester’s lane/distance keeping? Every time someone explains the features t

If you can’t use it in town or on curvy roads, how is it better than my base model Forester’s lane/distance keeping? Every time someone explains the features to me, they all sound cool and my interest is piqued, but I never quite grok what it practically does that would change daily driving for me. I think lane changing might be neat but I just don’t do that much on the highway? For me the massive advancement was getting a car with EyeSight and now it keeps me in the lane and evenly spaced and makes stop and go traffic painless. Oh and all the safety stopping systems. Every car should have those! Beyond that feels like diminishing returns until we get to some new level of autonomy which no car currently has.

burnished 4y ago
Does EyeSight do everything except change lanes/make 90 degree turns? Like, to the extent that it requires human oversight for safety reasons but is practically sufficient on its own? Because what you are describing is 100% of what I liked about the Tesla's capabilities.
- Waterluvian 4y ago
  As long as the highway has half-decently painted lines. I can drive from London to Toronto without having to “drive.” It will get angry if my hand is off the wheel though so I just keep them there and feel the car making every curve and such. It will slow if traffic slows then speed back up. It’ll do stop and go traffic without me touching a pedal. It does curves better than I ever expected it to. Any curve you find on a highway it’ll handle. It can do some off-ramps if they’re not super tight. But I don’t generally trust it to do those. I don’t trust it on non-divided country roads so I don’t really try. And it turns itself off fully if there’s too much rain or snow. I test drove a Mazda… 5? Whatever the comparable is, and a Honda CRV and their systems didn’t come close. Couldn’t even tell if the Mazda’s was enabled. The CRV bounced from line to line in the lane. They use radar and a single tiny camera. EyeSight uses two big stereo cameras which I guess is the difference.
  - burnished 4y ago
    Incredible. Thank you, thats good to know.
m463 4y ago
I should qualify my statement about tesla autopilot 1. extremely curvy roads. curvy roads are fine, but really tight turns it hunts a little and it's just easier to steer yourself. And I should be clear this is a corner case at the edge. On the freeway, even curvy mountain freeways, it does very well. and in town, I haven't had any issues, but it doesn't stop at stop signs, so I like to drive myself. this is just common sense to me, sort of how you don't use (old traditional set-one-speed) cruise control in heavy traffic.

burnished 4y ago

Does EyeSight do everything except change lanes/make 90 degree turns? Like, to the extent that it requires human oversight for safety reasons but is practically sufficient on its own? Because what you are describing is 100% of what I liked about the Tesla's capabilities.

Waterluvian 4y ago
As long as the highway has half-decently painted lines. I can drive from London to Toronto without having to “drive.” It will get angry if my hand is off the wheel though so I just keep them there and feel the car making every curve and such. It will slow if traffic slows then speed back up. It’ll do stop and go traffic without me touching a pedal. It does curves better than I ever expected it to. Any curve you find on a highway it’ll handle. It can do some off-ramps if they’re not super tight. But I don’t generally trust it to do those. I don’t trust it on non-divided country roads so I don’t really try. And it turns itself off fully if there’s too much rain or snow. I test drove a Mazda… 5? Whatever the comparable is, and a Honda CRV and their systems didn’t come close. Couldn’t even tell if the Mazda’s was enabled. The CRV bounced from line to line in the lane. They use radar and a single tiny camera. EyeSight uses two big stereo cameras which I guess is the difference.
- burnished 4y ago
  Incredible. Thank you, thats good to know.

m463 4y ago

I should qualify my statement about tesla autopilot 1. extremely curvy roads. curvy roads are fine, but really tight turns it hunts a little and it's just easier to steer yourself. And I should be clear this is a corner case at the edge. On the freeway, even curvy mountain freeways, it does very well. and in town, I haven't had any issues, but it doesn't stop at stop signs, so I like to drive myself. this is just common sense to me, sort of how you don't use (old traditional set-one-speed) cruise control in heavy traffic.