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Time to give Kagi another go, Google is ruined for me, I just can’t use Microsoft products. Will try again.

fnordpiglet 4y ago
I use Kagi exclusively. The results are just as bad as googles, but isn’t covered in spam. Given the sorry state of search quality in the SEO garbage world we live in, that’s high praise. I’m happy to spend the money every month.
- ChatGTP 4y ago
  Thanks, I felt similar last time I used it. Wasn’t magic like I remember Google being. I wonder what happened to Google? My theory is maybe their own systems have become too complex for them to understand and tune now. But they’ve invested so heavily into “AI” they don’t known where else to go in order to fix it ? I’ve here seen or experienced a search product quite like Google used to be. It truly felt like magic in it’s day.
  - stavros 4y ago
    What happened is that it got gamed, and lost the game. Spammers are better at getting ranked than Google is at detecting them, and the Web has died as a result.
  - funkaster 4y ago
    Pre-google internet was way more structured because it had to be (since there were no good organic search engines). Google got in there and had a great algorithm that worked in that world. It got gamed and now content is being produced to make sure you appear on top of searches that might not even be what you were looking for.
    - ChatGTP 4y ago
      Pre-google internet was way more structured because it had to be I have a feeling many things in the digital space are similar to this and will go the same way, code is a pretty good example. Longer term, I wonder what the generation of massive amounts of code will do to the training data.
- PrimeMcFly 4y ago
  Why not just use Startpage?
  - 90-00-09 4y ago
    Personally I _want_ to pay for this service. I do not trust free search products anymore. Well... they can't really be free, someone somehow has to pay for the consumed resources.
    - ChatGTP 4y ago
      Same, that's what got me interested in Kagi in the first place.
  - unshavedyak 4y ago
    For me, i prefer to (attempt to) have clear incentive structures. Kagi seems inline with my goals. Search costs, and i want to do what i can to not be the product.
    - PrimeMcFly 4y ago
      That's fair. Eventually I want to setup and start using one of the decentralized search products that exist. They seem like a good idea, but more investment than I've been willing to commit so far.

I use Kagi exclusively. The results are just as bad as googles, but isn’t covered in spam. Given the sorry state of search quality in the SEO garbage world we live in, that’s high praise. I’m happy to spend the money every month.

ChatGTP 4y ago
Thanks, I felt similar last time I used it. Wasn’t magic like I remember Google being. I wonder what happened to Google? My theory is maybe their own systems have become too complex for them to understand and tune now. But they’ve invested so heavily into “AI” they don’t known where else to go in order to fix it ? I’ve here seen or experienced a search product quite like Google used to be. It truly felt like magic in it’s day.
- stavros 4y ago
  What happened is that it got gamed, and lost the game. Spammers are better at getting ranked than Google is at detecting them, and the Web has died as a result.
- funkaster 4y ago
  Pre-google internet was way more structured because it had to be (since there were no good organic search engines). Google got in there and had a great algorithm that worked in that world. It got gamed and now content is being produced to make sure you appear on top of searches that might not even be what you were looking for.
  - ChatGTP 4y ago
    Pre-google internet was way more structured because it had to be I have a feeling many things in the digital space are similar to this and will go the same way, code is a pretty good example. Longer term, I wonder what the generation of massive amounts of code will do to the training data.
PrimeMcFly 4y ago
Why not just use Startpage?
- 90-00-09 4y ago
  Personally I _want_ to pay for this service. I do not trust free search products anymore. Well... they can't really be free, someone somehow has to pay for the consumed resources.
  - ChatGTP 4y ago
    Same, that's what got me interested in Kagi in the first place.
- unshavedyak 4y ago
  For me, i prefer to (attempt to) have clear incentive structures. Kagi seems inline with my goals. Search costs, and i want to do what i can to not be the product.
  - PrimeMcFly 4y ago
    That's fair. Eventually I want to setup and start using one of the decentralized search products that exist. They seem like a good idea, but more investment than I've been willing to commit so far.