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Lots of people on here claiming vague "porn does damage" hysteria. Curiously, not one mention of what the damage actually is though. This leads me to believe it

Lots of people on here claiming vague "porn does damage" hysteria. Curiously, not one mention of what the damage actually is though. This leads me to believe it's pure nonsense born out of some religious delusion. Maybe not though so in all seriousness: * What is the damage? (not yet another "it's harmful" sentance, I'm literally asking for details to learn what you mean, if anything). * What is "widespread"? Presumably this can be presented in terms of % of population or other actual data shaped way. * What is the "addiction" boogeyman in this context? What are the dreadful consequences you hint at? (again, please don't just bring the vague bullshit about "its addicting, lots of companies make money from it" - actual data is my request) * What are the actual studies backing whatever articles you got your information from - do they even exist? Were they put out by some religious think-tank or by people who do science? I'm going way out on a limb here, trying to assume you all are making good-faith claims rather than faith-based wishes. Currently I really suspect this is more motivated by a cult that has old dudes interrogate children about their genitals grasping at control over those genitalia than any reasonable problem solving.

davidgh 3y ago
Here are a couple of references for you. Compulsive Internet Pornography Use and Mental Health: A Cross-Sectional Study in a Sample of University Students in the United States https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7835260/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7835260/ Is Internet Pornography Causing Sexual Dysfunctions? A Review with Clinical Reports https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5039517/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5039517/
- hgsgm 3y ago
  Men can't win. After centuries of being regarded as sex fiends who can't last nore than 2 minutes in bed, now "difficulty achieving orgasm" and "decreased libido" are considered dysfunctions.
  - onion2k 3y ago
    Those states are two ends of a spectrum. There's a big 'normal, expected behavior' bit in the middle of that spectrum.
locustous 3y ago
> What is the damage? Where to begin. I'll be as straight forward as I can. Porn use cultivates lust. A false form of love that seeks easy sexual satisfaction instead of a stable long term committed relationship that's best for kids. Porn is a pretty major contributor to divorce and otherwise blowing up relationships. Some women will tolerate it for a time, or try to and even claim to succeed. But it eats at them and contributes greatly to their unhappiness. It's another form of infidelity, which is quite infamous in human society since forever. Numerous literature pieces. It's basically a love receptor inhibitor. The deeper you are in it the harder it will be to really love a woman. A real woman requires TLC, a great deal of it, a porn woman does not. How much energy do you thing goes into a relationship if all male sexual satisfaction is tied solely to it's health? If you've been in it since youth you probably have never experienced the kind of real love I'm talking about. I know because I was there, myself, for years. I walked a life of porn for many years and it's taken many years to overcome that addiction. Night and day.
- whalesalad 3y ago
  What’s wrong with sex for fun? That’s the moralistic religious conditioning that has us here in the first place.
- hulitu 3y ago
  > Porn is a pretty major contributor to divorce and otherwise blowing up relationships Citation needed. Usually a man's porn collection is not "public". If one shows it to his wife then ...
  - locustous 3y ago
    Do you really need it spelled out for you? This is a pretty obvious statement. https://verilymag.com/2017/07/causes-of-divorce-effects-of-watching-pornography https://verilymag.com/2017/07/causes-of-divorce-effects-of-w... https://www.science.org/content/article/divorce-rates-double-when-people-start-watching-porn https://www.science.org/content/article/divorce-rates-double... You can find plenty of pro porn propaganda out there too. They want to fill the channels with, at least, uncertainty. But use your own brain and human experience. Do many women you know celebrate porn use by their husbands/boyfriends? That it doesn't bother them at all? I don't need a study to tell me a hot stove burns. It effects your relationship even if you successfully keep it hidden. You can't hide the effects, particularly how you objectify the women about you. It's so common lots of people think this is normal. It's not normal, it's not good, and it causes unhappiness in a woman that wants to be really loved. Her. Not her body. Not that image you saw or that video you watched in your mind while you are with her so you can sustain an erection. Just, her. But you won't be able to give that to her. We men often natter on about the emotional sensitivities or frailties of women when they complain about things we think we are doing right. But there is something missing and she feels it. This is squelching the voice that is trying to lead you to do better, be better. To be a source of warmth, love and happiness instead of a cold stone that gets off to equally cold sex objects.
xboxnolifes 3y ago
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davidgh 3y ago

Here are a couple of references for you. Compulsive Internet Pornography Use and Mental Health: A Cross-Sectional Study in a Sample of University Students in the United States https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7835260/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7835260/ Is Internet Pornography Causing Sexual Dysfunctions? A Review with Clinical Reports https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5039517/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5039517/

hgsgm 3y ago
Men can't win. After centuries of being regarded as sex fiends who can't last nore than 2 minutes in bed, now "difficulty achieving orgasm" and "decreased libido" are considered dysfunctions.
- onion2k 3y ago
  Those states are two ends of a spectrum. There's a big 'normal, expected behavior' bit in the middle of that spectrum.

locustous 3y ago

> What is the damage? Where to begin. I'll be as straight forward as I can. Porn use cultivates lust. A false form of love that seeks easy sexual satisfaction instead of a stable long term committed relationship that's best for kids. Porn is a pretty major contributor to divorce and otherwise blowing up relationships. Some women will tolerate it for a time, or try to and even claim to succeed. But it eats at them and contributes greatly to their unhappiness. It's another form of infidelity, which is quite infamous in human society since forever. Numerous literature pieces. It's basically a love receptor inhibitor. The deeper you are in it the harder it will be to really love a woman. A real woman requires TLC, a great deal of it, a porn woman does not. How much energy do you thing goes into a relationship if all male sexual satisfaction is tied solely to it's health? If you've been in it since youth you probably have never experienced the kind of real love I'm talking about. I know because I was there, myself, for years. I walked a life of porn for many years and it's taken many years to overcome that addiction. Night and day.

whalesalad 3y ago
What’s wrong with sex for fun? That’s the moralistic religious conditioning that has us here in the first place.
hulitu 3y ago
> Porn is a pretty major contributor to divorce and otherwise blowing up relationships Citation needed. Usually a man's porn collection is not "public". If one shows it to his wife then ...
- locustous 3y ago
  Do you really need it spelled out for you? This is a pretty obvious statement. https://verilymag.com/2017/07/causes-of-divorce-effects-of-watching-pornography https://verilymag.com/2017/07/causes-of-divorce-effects-of-w... https://www.science.org/content/article/divorce-rates-double-when-people-start-watching-porn https://www.science.org/content/article/divorce-rates-double... You can find plenty of pro porn propaganda out there too. They want to fill the channels with, at least, uncertainty. But use your own brain and human experience. Do many women you know celebrate porn use by their husbands/boyfriends? That it doesn't bother them at all? I don't need a study to tell me a hot stove burns. It effects your relationship even if you successfully keep it hidden. You can't hide the effects, particularly how you objectify the women about you. It's so common lots of people think this is normal. It's not normal, it's not good, and it causes unhappiness in a woman that wants to be really loved. Her. Not her body. Not that image you saw or that video you watched in your mind while you are with her so you can sustain an erection. Just, her. But you won't be able to give that to her. We men often natter on about the emotional sensitivities or frailties of women when they complain about things we think we are doing right. But there is something missing and she feels it. This is squelching the voice that is trying to lead you to do better, be better. To be a source of warmth, love and happiness instead of a cold stone that gets off to equally cold sex objects.

xboxnolifes 3y ago

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