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You saying laws restricting prostitution is religiously motivated? Laws restricting gambling? Drugs? Where's the line between religious motivation and morality

You saying laws restricting prostitution is religiously motivated? Laws restricting gambling? Drugs? Where's the line between religious motivation and morality? Just because you don't like the law, you accuse the proponents of the law of being religiously motivated. When you like the law, it will be because of blah blah blah morality of course.

peterashford 4y ago
Utah blocking porn is completely a religious issue. Just because the line between religious motivation and anything else isn't 100% black and white doesn't change that.
- kelipso 4y ago
  It's not that it's not 100% black and white. The line basically does not exist. What is the line between someone's personal morality influenced by a society that espouses a particular religion as opposed to whatever basic hacker news atheist liberal democrat morality or whatever? One is supposedly better apparently? The Utah law is clearly influenced by their religion but to distinguish that as religiously motivated as opposed to whatever motivation US coastal elite morality barfs out, it's ridiculous.
analog31 4y ago
I think, as a rule of thumb, it's reasonable to treat sexual laws as a "fingerprint" of a religious society. That doesn't mean there aren't exceptions. But when my state passed a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, the polling indicated that support for the measure was strongly divided along religious lines. So it's not so much a division between religion and morality, but just an observed pattern of religions that happens to be applicable here.
tomrod 4y ago
This law is religiously motivated because Utah politics usually represent the will of the Brighamites, the Mormon adherents to the corporation that owns the entity of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Or what has the More Good Foundation and other similar orgs been pushing for for the last 15 years? > Where's the line between religious motivation and morality? Religions are subcommunity groups, morality is interally driven.
- kelipso 4y ago
  There is no such thing as internally driven morality.

peterashford 4y ago

Utah blocking porn is completely a religious issue. Just because the line between religious motivation and anything else isn't 100% black and white doesn't change that.

kelipso 4y ago
It's not that it's not 100% black and white. The line basically does not exist. What is the line between someone's personal morality influenced by a society that espouses a particular religion as opposed to whatever basic hacker news atheist liberal democrat morality or whatever? One is supposedly better apparently? The Utah law is clearly influenced by their religion but to distinguish that as religiously motivated as opposed to whatever motivation US coastal elite morality barfs out, it's ridiculous.

analog31 4y ago

I think, as a rule of thumb, it's reasonable to treat sexual laws as a "fingerprint" of a religious society. That doesn't mean there aren't exceptions. But when my state passed a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, the polling indicated that support for the measure was strongly divided along religious lines. So it's not so much a division between religion and morality, but just an observed pattern of religions that happens to be applicable here.

tomrod 4y ago

This law is religiously motivated because Utah politics usually represent the will of the Brighamites, the Mormon adherents to the corporation that owns the entity of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Or what has the More Good Foundation and other similar orgs been pushing for for the last 15 years? > Where's the line between religious motivation and morality? Religions are subcommunity groups, morality is interally driven.

kelipso 4y ago
There is no such thing as internally driven morality.